Installed it over the weekend, biggest mistake I have ever made, runs like a total dog - anyone else found this?
People have mentioned this on the Ubuntu forum but so far nobody has come up with a decent solution. Anyone care to recommend another good distro that is fairly up to date?
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Anyone tried Ubuntu Breezy preview?
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Kanotix would be the other obvious choice IMO, and one that many people here use. IIRC, there's still a ton of debug code running in breezy slowing it down -- personally, I've been running it on my testing box since they opened the repos, and haven't had too many problems with it.
Kanotix runs much faster on the same box, though -- i just wish the installer was a little better, and that I knew how to clean up the boot after I installed. Hardware detection is great, but I don't want to deal with a 3 min boot every flippin' time I restart.
Kanotix runs much faster on the same box, though -- i just wish the installer was a little better, and that I knew how to clean up the boot after I installed. Hardware detection is great, but I don't want to deal with a 3 min boot every flippin' time I restart.
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You can. Install BUM (boot up manager) to remove the services you don't need (ISDN, PCMCIA, etc..). It's in the Debian unstable repositories.Snarkout wrote:Kanotix runs much faster on the same box, though -- i just wish the installer was a little better, and that I knew how to clean up the boot after I installed. Hardware detection is great, but I don't want to deal with a 3 min boot every flippin' time I restart.
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I installed Breezy the other day on a test machine.
I downloaded the Live version first. It booted to the startup sequence, but it hung right at the end when it is loading Gnome. I couldn't get to a desktop. I tried different command switches to boot it, but after 5 tries it did the exact same thing so I just couldn't be bothered with it in the end.
Then I downloaded the Install version. I started the installer and right after the partitioning part of the install, it froze.
So I rebooted and tried again. It installed properly and I had a new Ubuntu desktop with a spekky default wallpaper. Then I noticed something. The mouse was moving VERY slowly around the desktop. This was a real pain. It had detected my correct graphics card driver so that shouldn't be it. The PC wasn't all that slow either. It is a Celeron 1GHz, 128MB RAM, 32MB TNT2, 80GB HD.
After that I tried setting up a network. The Samba tools were nice but I couldn't get a network happening with my Mac mini. I could have tried editing the smb.conf but I was too lazy.
One nice thing though was that when I plugged in my iPod, it detected it as an "Apple iPod" within Nautilus and it gave it a proper iPod icon and made a symlink on the Desktop. Nice.
I was thinking about wiping OS X and installing Breezy on my Mac mini. I'm gonna download the PPC Live version and give it a go but if I have the same problems as I have with the x86 version, it's gonna be more distro hunting. Shame really.
It's times like this I'm jealous of my mate's Gentoo box. That thing is QUICK! He keeps telling me to give Gentoo a try, but I can't be bothered waiting a day or two just to install it. His took 3 days to install but I can see it was worth the effort. It's the fastest PC I've ever seen. Period.
I downloaded the Live version first. It booted to the startup sequence, but it hung right at the end when it is loading Gnome. I couldn't get to a desktop. I tried different command switches to boot it, but after 5 tries it did the exact same thing so I just couldn't be bothered with it in the end.
Then I downloaded the Install version. I started the installer and right after the partitioning part of the install, it froze.
So I rebooted and tried again. It installed properly and I had a new Ubuntu desktop with a spekky default wallpaper. Then I noticed something. The mouse was moving VERY slowly around the desktop. This was a real pain. It had detected my correct graphics card driver so that shouldn't be it. The PC wasn't all that slow either. It is a Celeron 1GHz, 128MB RAM, 32MB TNT2, 80GB HD.
After that I tried setting up a network. The Samba tools were nice but I couldn't get a network happening with my Mac mini. I could have tried editing the smb.conf but I was too lazy.
One nice thing though was that when I plugged in my iPod, it detected it as an "Apple iPod" within Nautilus and it gave it a proper iPod icon and made a symlink on the Desktop. Nice.
I was thinking about wiping OS X and installing Breezy on my Mac mini. I'm gonna download the PPC Live version and give it a go but if I have the same problems as I have with the x86 version, it's gonna be more distro hunting. Shame really.
It's times like this I'm jealous of my mate's Gentoo box. That thing is QUICK! He keeps telling me to give Gentoo a try, but I can't be bothered waiting a day or two just to install it. His took 3 days to install but I can see it was worth the effort. It's the fastest PC I've ever seen. Period.
Re: Anyone tried Ubuntu Breezy preview?
I'm really not an Ubuntu guy at all, but you can't bash it too hard based on a test release. The purpose of a test release is to find the kind of problems you are experiencing and fix them before release. I run test version of Fedora when they come out, but I don't install them on a system I can't live without.kernoman wrote:Installed it over the weekend, biggest mistake I have ever made, runs like a total dog - anyone else found this?
People have mentioned this on the Ubuntu forum but so far nobody has come up with a decent solution. Anyone care to recommend another good distro that is fairly up to date?
Cheers
I'd recommend you try an actual release of a distro (like Ubuntu Hoary) if you're not willing to deal with the pain of a pre-release version.
I was previousley running Horay however a lot of the apps I wanted to upgrade would not work and I ended up in dependencie hell 
so i thought what the hell i will give breezy a go, i just hope it all gets sorted for the final release which i beleive is sometime in October, think i will just have to wait.. thought about kanotix however I will wait until the latest version comes out, I have tried the current version and agree it is nice but something inside me tells me to stick with Ubuntu. Ive done gentoo - wouldnt go back to that in a million years - lifes too short
so i thought what the hell i will give breezy a go, i just hope it all gets sorted for the final release which i beleive is sometime in October, think i will just have to wait.. thought about kanotix however I will wait until the latest version comes out, I have tried the current version and agree it is nice but something inside me tells me to stick with Ubuntu. Ive done gentoo - wouldnt go back to that in a million years - lifes too short Cool - thanks for the tip Patrick! I've already turned off a ton of startup services, but I'll give that a shot. How's the stability of Kanotix right now? I've been staying far away from sid repos for a while due to all the breakage many people saw recently.Patrick wrote:You can. Install BUM (boot up manager) to remove the services you don't need (ISDN, PCMCIA, etc..). It's in the Debian unstable repositories.
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson
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I'd avoid doing a dist-upgrade until the all clear is sounded. Keep an eye on the Kanotix forums for updates. For individual packages it's ok. I've installed a bunch of apps and games without any real issues.Snarkout wrote:How's the stability of Kanotix right now? I've been staying far away from sid repos for a while due to all the breakage many people saw recently.
Kanotix stability is good. However, there are still some KDE issues with SID (although getting back to normal as the days go on).
I just recently did a apt upgrade. For the most part everything went well, however there's an outstanding issue with one of the KDE libraries in SID. Although I'm not too reliant on it, I have temp. lost use of K-Office until this library is caught up to date.
Kind of a bummer, but it's not Kanotix or KDE's fault. Just have to wait for SID to sort itself out. Other than that, the system is working tickety-boo!
I just recently did a apt upgrade. For the most part everything went well, however there's an outstanding issue with one of the KDE libraries in SID. Although I'm not too reliant on it, I have temp. lost use of K-Office until this library is caught up to date.
Kind of a bummer, but it's not Kanotix or KDE's fault. Just have to wait for SID to sort itself out. Other than that, the system is working tickety-boo!
It is a Preview edition - it's basically a beta. If you wanted something fully working, you should've gone for Hoary.
OSS is great because you get to download the bleeding edge stuff. But if you download a beta or a preview, then you've got to expect it to be less polished, and potentially broken, than a production release.
I've been running Breezy as a test case on my laptop for about 3 months now - at times it's been massively broken as they make substantial changes. In particular I believe that they have done a lot of work on X, which may be the root cause of the problem.
Final release of Breezy will be some time in October. If you are looking for a stable Ubuntu release, you will need to wait until then.
OSS is great because you get to download the bleeding edge stuff. But if you download a beta or a preview, then you've got to expect it to be less polished, and potentially broken, than a production release.
I've been running Breezy as a test case on my laptop for about 3 months now - at times it's been massively broken as they make substantial changes. In particular I believe that they have done a lot of work on X, which may be the root cause of the problem.
Final release of Breezy will be some time in October. If you are looking for a stable Ubuntu release, you will need to wait until then.