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Re: Macbook Air

Post by davijordan » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:51 pm

Dell use to have a no-fault warranty that could be purchased extra. If you had this warranty and while you had this warranty no matter what happened to a laptop they would fix it. I wonder if there Is there such a warranty at apple?.

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by jamathis » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:45 am

davijordan wrote:Used Celeron laptop Free
Memory upgrade $ 5
Gnu/Debian Operating system Free
Application software Free
Mouse, case, nic, and etc. $20

Not worried if it breaks and
saving $1769...... Priceless
That's a lot more reasonable. The Macbook air is just a rip-off if you ask me. Nothing more than an over-priced, crippled notebook, that looks "nice".

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by Wally Balljacker » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:44 pm

jamathis wrote:
davijordan wrote:Used Celeron laptop Free
Memory upgrade $ 5
Gnu/Debian Operating system Free
Application software Free
Mouse, case, nic, and etc. $20

Not worried if it breaks and
saving $1769...... Priceless
That's a lot more reasonable. The Macbook air is just a rip-off if you ask me. Nothing more than an over-priced, crippled notebook, that looks "nice".
I can see the market Apple is going for with this new notebook. You know, the always-on-the-go, super-mobile crowd, that wants an ultra light-weight, stylish notebook that gets 5 hour battery life, and "just works".

I don't see myself buying one, mainly because of the price tag, but I can't deny it's an awesome piece of hardware.

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by allix » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:25 pm

Wally Balljacker wrote:
I can see the market Apple is going for with this new notebook. You know, the always-on-the-go, super-mobile crowd, that wants an ultra light-weight, stylish notebook that gets 5 hour battery life, and "just works".

I don't see myself buying one, mainly because of the price tag, but I can't deny it's an awesome piece of hardware.
The eeepc just works and is a hell lot cheaper
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Re: Macbook Air

Post by Patrick » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:35 pm

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by Wally Balljacker » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:57 pm

allix wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote:
I can see the market Apple is going for with this new notebook. You know, the always-on-the-go, super-mobile crowd, that wants an ultra light-weight, stylish notebook that gets 5 hour battery life, and "just works".

I don't see myself buying one, mainly because of the price tag, but I can't deny it's an awesome piece of hardware.
The eeepc just works and is a hell lot cheaper
It's also a hell of a lot slower.

900MHz Celery-M Vs. a 1.6GHz Core 2 Duo
1GB RAM Vs. 2GB RAM
8GB storage Vs. 80GB storage

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by davijordan » Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:17 pm

I always thought you should look at he application software first and then the hardware second. What in terms of app software can the macair do that you can not do on anything else. Any computer is still as slow as the human using it. if you really need something done fast then If it were me I would have superduper computer to do all the heavy lifting and and then access it like as a terminal server client.

if Apple had any kind of real competitor, the macair laptop would be less extravagant in price or would include more value added features. Now is a chance for linux vendors to seize the day. Value added features are the best asset linux has over other systems. I do not plan to ever go back into retail, but I see many ways linux retailers could kick some dairy air in sales. Linux vendors need to understand that. If they did people would not be begging dell and the like to make linux boxes. Ibm is making a fortune with linux because they understand this.

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by Wally Balljacker » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:18 am

Let me first start off saying that low-budget, entry-level Linux computers, like many of the ones we've seen, are great, and they fill a much needed gap, but I think we are going about this the wrong way. The reason Apple sells like hotcakes is because they design high-quality, well integrated machines that look great and are extremely easy to use, and they market them brilliantly. When I think of Linux, I think Wal-Mart, Linspire, Xandros, Koobox, low-end Dell, and so on. Cheap, budget computers. I don't get that "I must have this, because it's the hottest thing in the world" feeling that one gets when watching an Apple advertisement. The Linux community needs their own Apple. A company that "gets" design and marketing. We've got the best technology, we just need to wrap it up in an irresistible package. Maybe Mark Shuttleworth and Canonical should get into the hardware business and design machines specifically for Ubuntu like Apple does with Mac OS X.

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by davijordan » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:10 am

I am not against high end systems if you really need them (after using system analysis) or truly have the spare money. I would love to have a real nice laptop, but I do not need it. There used to be a company that licensed Apple called Umax. They made a better Apple than Apple and sold it less expensively. My understanding is that when Umax started taking over the Apple market the Umax license from Apple was ended. It has been demonstrated that Apple could have bettter value. As for Os/x being easy to use, it is wysiwyg... To me the only advantage apple "had" was the application software in the desktop publishing, art, and music areas. Now that the architectures are the same for most os's now, there is no reason for there to be a big difference in performance. All things being equal, only the look and feel will be different. Why spend the extra money unless there is value added features?

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by allix » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:48 am

Wally Balljacker wrote:
allix wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote:
I can see the market Apple is going for with this new notebook. You know, the always-on-the-go, super-mobile crowd, that wants an ultra light-weight, stylish notebook that gets 5 hour battery life, and "just works".

I don't see myself buying one, mainly because of the price tag, but I can't deny it's an awesome piece of hardware.
The eeepc just works and is a hell lot cheaper
It's also a hell of a lot slower.

900MHz Celery-M Vs. a 1.6GHz Core 2 Duo
1GB RAM Vs. 2GB RAM
8GB storage Vs. 80GB storage
its not as bad as you think , ive seen my friends one , firefox , openoffice all run fine.
nobody needs 2GB Ram on something thats only 7inch.
you can just plug in a Western Digital Passport 160 or 250 GB into it , there not the bulky externel hardrives either.

However the differences you mention are not that big that there warrant such a huge price difference.

In regard to Canonical making a nice looking high end laptop. Canonical are not even making profit , of course Shuttleworth has the money to throw at such a venture , but i would of thought he would like to make money from ubuntu support before diving into that.
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Re: Macbook Air

Post by dann » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:39 pm

One thing to note, also, is that apple controls both the hardware and the software. This affords the the ability to provide massive integration with their own products. Step outside the apple-brand products and you start to get spotty results (i.e; other media device support; scanner useablity, itunes and quicktime under windows).

This control drives the prices up because now that you only have one vendor to go to not only do they control the demand and pricing but they are at the requirements they place on outside manufacturers increasing the cost per unit from standard product.

Right now Linux does not have the market share to dictate producing apple-sleek designs in hardware. Hopefully that will change. Assus took a gamble on the eeePC and I hope it pays off!

Stuff like the sharing of the cdrom drive over wifi, the apple back-up storage device; work great with apple products but not much more. I'm sure Linux could do this by we have to content with the myriad of hardware devices out there which makes it more difficult for proper support. Get my drift?

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Re: Macbook Air

Post by jamathis » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:45 pm

I thought this was pretty funny.


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