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I thought I'd be nice and post a link of the Shuttleworth interview over on the Ubuntu forum so they could hear their leader:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186732

Check out some of the posts and my responses. Unreal!

lol, you guys do something nice for the community, free of charge, and all people do is bitch about all the little imperfections. I guess these people don't realize that the Tech Show is a live broadcast, that is podcasted for convenience. Waaa Waaa, Linc hurts my ears, Waa, Waa, you guys sound unprofessional. Fsck 'em.

Patrick wrote:I thought I'd be nice and post a link of the Shuttleworth interview over on the Ubuntu forum so they could hear their leader:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186732

Check out some of the posts and my responses. Unreal!

I just do not understand why everyone has to have such a stick up their ass about this *podcast* thing. It's like we're not *worthy* because we don't do this in a studio and we need to do a "professional" podcast type of thing. They just don't *get it* that it's not a podcast. It was never meant to be one either, even though we were one of the first.

It amazes me that everyone that emails in about how shitty the sound quality is just happens to be a "professional sound editor". Yeah, right weenie boy.

The other thing I don't get is that people cannot seem to lean back and enjoy the talk and the interviews without them being in some kind of CNN interview format or something. Personally I think it's refreshing to just lean back with a beer and have a friendly chat with some of these people. I like hearing what they actually think about things after they run out of their canned publicist approved interview material.

And why the hell aren't there more people that have heard of or listened to the show? Dang, we have been doing this way longer than anyone else - long enough for our very renouned guests to not only have heard of us before but in some cases actually request for us to interview them. Are we really that obnoxious or something?

It really shouldn't annoy me as much as it does, but it does anyhow. Especially on a couple beers

Seemed to me like the complaints mostly came from one person (Arktis). So, I wouldn't sweat it... this person has probably never heard of TLLTS before and it seems as though we ain't missing anything because of it.

You just can't please some people.

What makes me chuckle is how some people are more upset that you guys were able to line up an interview with Mark, yet you didn't "bother" to consult the Ubuntu community to get their approval on what you were going to talk to him about.

If they've got so many important questions to ask, then they should get off their asses and arrange for their own interview.

Again, you can't please everyone.

I mean, Ubuntu means as much to me as a flat tire on my car... but I still appreciate what you guys do every week.

Fuckheads.

You don't make it to episode 142 without doing something right. Sure, sometimes the pause are a bit long, but most other tech "podcasts" are 1) boring as hell, 2) full of commericials and whoring, 3) don't make it to episode 10, or 4) all of the above.
And this "arktis" guy is a complete troll. Just look at his posting history, all his postings are 2-3 line insults. I'm sure shuttleworth appreciates him for warding off potential users.

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Are we really that obnoxious or something?
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dann's homoerotic comments are sometimes frightening.

Linc wrote: And why the hell aren't there more people that have heard of or listened to the show? Dang, we have been doing this way longer than anyone else - long enough for our very renouned guests to not only have heard of us before but in some cases actually request for us to interview them. Are we really that obnoxious or something?

Take a look at our LUG, for instance. We have a lot of people in the LUG yet only three or four listen to the show (not counting ourselves). I think that most people in the Linux community do not listen to podcasts. Those that do are like comparing the computer users in the world using windows as opposed to those using Linux. It's such a small microcosm.

I suspect other shows have the same problem. I find Binrev utterly fantatistic, yet I believe their numbers and popularity are not that stellar either. Being immeshed with that crew, the infonomicon sector and twat tends to provide the illusion that there are a lot more of "us" out there than actually are.

One thing I do keep hearing over and over is that we do not have enough technical content focusing on Linux. While we started the show talking about technology with a focus on Linux and Free/Open Software, we also made a point to discuss non-technical issues surrounding our lives. I think that there is an equal number of people who love the witty banter as opposed to those who loathe it.

Another issue that frosts a lot of people is the audio quality. Compared to the other shows in a similar vein, I believe we are pretty much in line. But we do not stack up to IT Conversations or TWIT. There is no way we really could without investing a lot of cash into our infrastructure; which is not going to happen.

So when someone hears a community luminary speaking on a show with questionable audio quality it annoys them. How many times have we heard that these interviews are very important to the community, but the poor sound quality takes too much away? But then again, beggars can't be choosers.

We'll never appeal to everybody so it's not worth trying. My opinion is that so long as we are satisfied with the product we are putting out and we maintain the position that we will always attempt to put out the best possible show we can; then we have done the job we set out to do.

Most people who listen and enjoy the show will do so silently. Those that we irritate will make themselves known every chance they get.

dann wrote:Another issue that frosts a lot of people is the audio quality. Compared to the other shows in a similar vein, I believe we are pretty much in line. But we do not stack up to IT Conversations or TWIT. There is no way we really could without investing a lot of cash into our infrastructure; which is not going to happen.

I don't know about the recent episodes, but the audio quality on some of the earlier Twits was horrible. I remember an episode where everything dvorak said was echoed 2 seconds later. And presumably they are more audio-savvy than you guys, so shame on them.

thetza wrote:

dann wrote:Another issue that frosts a lot of people is the audio quality. Compared to the other shows in a similar vein, I believe we are pretty much in line. But we do not stack up to IT Conversations or TWIT. There is no way we really could without investing a lot of cash into our infrastructure; which is not going to happen.

I don't know about the recent episodes, but the audio quality on some of the earlier Twits was horrible. I remember an episode where everything dvorak said was echoed 2 seconds later. And presumably they are more audio-savvy than you guys, so shame on them.

I think I'd rather listen to Dvorak that way - that guy gives me the creeps.

Hello all

Well I finaly managed to sign up here, only 6 attempts at the "type these letters in" thing on the sign up page, oh isnt it fun to be Dyslexic. Anyway I was pretty sure this thread was going to crop up after what happened over on the Ubuntu Forums, of which I will hold my hand up and say I one of the people who was suprised to say the least of the style of the show and the comments regarding problems with Dapper upgrades/odd glitches.

That said after taking time to listen to your show I retracted my initial comments and posted an edited down version for those that really really just wanted the interview and like me were streaming it off the server not downloading it so could not skip ahead even if they wanted too.

Judland wrote:What makes me chuckle is how some people are more upset that you guys were able to line up an interview with Mark, yet you didn't "bother" to consult the Ubuntu community to get their approval on what you were going to talk to him about.

If they've got so many important questions to ask, then they should get off their asses and arrange for their own interview.

Well its funny you should say this, because to the best of my knowlege...We have tried.....lol.....many many times, and as of yet natta. Not me personaly, Im talking about the Ubuntu pod cast and the mirad of ULUGS and regional 'Ubuntu Foundations' that have sent him requests for information but found him, understandably, to be too busy.



Well done for getting an interview with him, I really enjoyed listening and I'll make sure I download the odd podcast from time to time to see whats going on, but for me as far as podcasts go, askaninja will always rule

Linc wrote:The other thing I don't get is that people cannot seem to lean back and enjoy the talk and the interviews without them being in some kind of CNN interview format or something. Personally I think it's refreshing to just lean back with a beer and have a friendly chat with some of these people. I like hearing what they actually think about things after they run out of their canned publicist approved interview material.

I agree, it brings things down to earth and gives you more of a personal picture of these guys who are out there in the community, I really enjoyed the interview with Zack Rusin, damn that guy fit right in!

To be honest Linc, I find your interviews a hell of a lot better than anything CNN can dish out.

Judland wrote:What makes me chuckle is how some people are more upset that you guys were able to line up an interview with Mark, yet you didn't "bother" to consult the Ubuntu community to get their approval on what you were going to talk to him about.

LOL, try being a teenage girl and talk to another teenage girl's boyfriend, I smell a fight on that one!
And yes I have seen this, it's hilarious to watch, because most girls don't use a fist when they fight, they smack each other with a flat hand or use their nails to scratch each other, it's hilarious I'm telling ya!

thetza wrote:You don't make it to episode 142 without doing something right. Sure, sometimes the pause are a bit long, but most other tech "podcasts" are 1) boring as hell,

You can say that again, a lot of people just talk about crappy non-geek stuff all the time because they don't want to "only cater to a niche audience", my answer to that is "Look, don't treat your audience as a bunch of unintelligent fools, most people would know what RAM, a CPU and a motherboard is if they know what an operating system is".

thetza wrote:2) full of commericials and whoring,

That's TWiT in a nutshell, basically!
Seriously, I think on one of the recent episodes, they talk about Apple's new "budget" laptop, the MacBook, and Leo, once again, show's how big a Mac-whore he is, man I couldn't take that shit!

thetza wrote:3) don't make it to episode 10, or 4) all of the above.

Or are only interesting for a little while and then get super boring, because some yahoo wrote them a check.

thetza wrote:

linc wrote:Are we really that obnoxious or something?

dann's homoerotic comments are sometimes frightening.

Isn't that an understatement?

Some of Dann's comments are just undescribable, but I gotta say, after that story when he went running with his dog, my stomach hurt for like 6 hours because of laughter!

dann wrote:One thing I do keep hearing over and over is that we do not have enough technical content focusing on Linux.

Remember those segments you did on compiling? I really enjoyed those. I think it's that kinda stuff people would like.

dann wrote:While we started the show talking about technology with a focus on Linux and Free/Open Software, we also made a point to discuss non-technical issues surrounding our lives. I think that there is an equal number of people who love the witty banter as opposed to those who loathe it.

The combination of technical and non-technical stuff are very good in many areas, everything from a radio show to cracking. For example, you can talk about overcoming technical barriers to Linux adoption, but as you pointed out during the Mark Shuttleworth interview, non-technical issues are often much much harder to overcome.

dann wrote:Another issue that frosts a lot of people is the audio quality. Compared to the other shows in a similar vein, I believe we are pretty much in line. But we do not stack up to IT Conversations or TWIT. There is no way we really could without investing a lot of cash into our infrastructure; which is not going to happen.

Well, TWiT is getting quite boring these days, in the beginning they talked about a lot of technical stuff, but they never do that these days, it's all a bunch of Mac whoring from Leo and hype about this crappy Web 2.0 thing and hype about other crap, Nintendo bashing and so on, shit they should rename the thing to "this WEEK in APPLE WHORING" or something, because frankly, that title represents the content a hell of a lot better.

dann wrote:So when someone hears a community luminary speaking on a show with questionable audio quality it annoys them. How many times have we heard that these interviews are very important to the community, but the poor sound quality takes too much away? But then again, beggars can't be choosers.

Just make your SpamAssasain filter out emails that include the worlds "audio", "quality", "sucks", because those people are just full of shit, hey if you have the money to buy expensive audio equipment, why don't go ahead and donate it to Dann, Pat, Linc and Allan and stop your whining, go listen to this WEEK in APPLE WHORING, if everything else is so bad!

dann wrote:We'll never appeal to everybody so it's not worth trying.

It's not worth turning into TWiT, is that what you're saying?

dann wrote:My opinion is that so long as we are satisfied with the product we are putting out and we maintain the position that we will always attempt to put out the best possible show we can; then we have done the job we set out to do.

My mom always says "When you do your best, you can't do more", and I'm saying the same here!

dann wrote:Most people who listen and enjoy the show will do so silently. Those that we irritate will make themselves known every chance they get.

We need to get together and do a DoS attack on them retards!

Tsuroerusu wrote: We need to get together and do a DoS attack on them retards!

That's not cool! We're better than that. I believe in taking the high road. If someone wants to act a twat then let them. Let people see their immaturity or ignorance for what it is.

Patrick wrote:

Tsuroerusu wrote: We need to get together and do a DoS attack on them retards!

That's not cool! We're better than that. I believe in taking the high road. If someone wants to act a twat then let them. Let people see their immaturity or ignorance for what it is.

Hehe, it was partly a joke, but I'm just tired of a lot of wheenies complaining about the show audio quality, they should fuck off and do their own show if everything is so bad, I hate ignorant people!

And I thought Mac zelots were bad. lol

Wow, what a thread over there. I figured that they would be happy that Shuttleworth would just be talking to a show for them to enjoy. I do agree with some of the others in the ubuntu community are miffed that he would agree to talk to you guys (a show they have never heard off) instead of them. Heresy!!! lol

I thought that the interview was very good and Mark came across as a cool guy.

As for the quality of the show, I think that the reason that you have some of the hardcore fans, is that you guys tell some personal stories that help us get to know the people behind the mics. I had a Linux class in college a few years back and all the guy did was spout off terms and scripts. Very boring, and I would not be interested in hearing anything he had to say, let alone want to have a beer with him. After a while, people would just get bored and stop listening. This show is different, and it is not for everyone. Some people would just like to sit the room with that old professor of mine, listen to him talk and get out. I am not like that. Don't change anything.

Bye the way T and thetza, good point about TWIT, I don't listen to that show very much anymore. I usually fast forward through the commercials on TV too. I am just not interested in Macs.


Linc, I don't know why the show isn't more popular either, and anyone that bitches about the sound quality is just missing the point of the show. Maybe a disclaimer is needed on the homepage that "WE ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS, NOR DO WE CLAIM TO BE. WE DO THIS FOR FREE, PLEASE ENJOY!". I have said it many times, for me it is the quality of the material presented, not the quality of the presentation.

As always guys, great job.

A huge fan of the "unclassey dweebs"

I would take it as a compliment that some over there were surprised at the character of the show. It shows that you guys are original and creative with your broadcast. It amazes me that so many people think that an internet broadcast has to sound like the freakin boring TV evening news and are actually disappointed when it doesn't. As for the remarks about you guys being low class... all I can say is that I hope you saved a "40" for me...