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Microshaft rips off another Open Source project

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:05 pm
by Judland
From the Klik Blog....

Microsaft deploys "ClickOnce". :roll:

Re: Microshaft rips off another Open Source project

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:33 pm
by TankCatNinjaFish
Judland wrote:From the Klik Blog....

Microsaft deploys "ClickOnce". :roll:
should linspire patent it and sue microsoft? and not like linspire doesn't rip off plenty from windows.

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:27 am
by Judland
What I find amusing is that the roles seemed to have changed.

At one time (and I'm sure many people still believe it) it was believed that the Linux desktop was just trying to be another Microshaft Windows.

But now it seems as though Microshaft is just trying to be another Linux distro. Look at the catch-up work they're doing and plan to have in their next OS... Tabbed pages and RSS reader in their web browser, transparent menus and window decorations, ClickOnce software installer, "3D" desktop elements (although nothing as sophisticated as AIGLX/XGL), integrated desktop applets..... All of this already available on today's modern Linux desktop - while most of these features have been in Linux for year(s) now.

Very amusing. :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:29 am
by Tsuroerusu
Judland wrote:What I find amusing is that the roles seemed to have changed.

At one time (and I'm sure many people still believe it) it was believed that the Linux desktop was just trying to be another Microshaft Windows.

But now it seems as though Microshaft is just trying to be another Linux distro. Look at the catch-up work they're doing and plan to have in their next OS... Tabbed pages and RSS reader in their web browser, transparent menus and window decorations, ClickOnce software installer, "3D" desktop elements (although nothing as sophisticated as AIGLX/XGL), integrated desktop applets..... All of this already available on today's modern Linux desktop - while most of these features have been in Linux for year(s) now.

Very amusing. :lol:
Plus the fact that all of these features are coming together with KDE 4.0! :wink:

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:51 am
by dann
Judland wrote:
But now it seems as though Microshaft is just trying to be another Linux distro. Look at the catch-up work they're doing and plan to have in their next OS... Tabbed pages and RSS reader in their web browser, transparent menus and window decorations, ClickOnce software installer, "3D" desktop elements (although nothing as sophisticated as AIGLX/XGL), integrated desktop applets..... All of this already available on today's modern Linux desktop - while most of these features have been in Linux for year(s) now.

Very amusing. :lol:
Amusing it may be, the sad part is, many users will see these as innovations and care little that they originated in other OS's/applications. Just look at OS X as an example. Apple fanboys go ga-ga over desktop search, fancy gl transitions, the dock, virtual destkops, and dashboard; all features which launched on the Linux and BSD desktops long before. By apple and ms working these into their OS they may make transitioning to Linux or BSD less appealing.

We can laugh, but Windows has what so many people are clamoring for in Linux - Vendor Hardware support and popular closed applications. While Linux is catching up slowly in these areas and continuing to innovate, MS and Apple merely have to sit by the wayside, co-opting the best features.

Who knows, maybe oneday MS will finally release a more secure OS that is stable too!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:12 am
by Judland
dann wrote: While Linux is catching up slowly in these areas and continuing to innovate, MS and Apple merely have to sit by the wayside, co-opting the best features.
And that's why I don't support these kinds of corporations. I'll do just fine without buying, owning or using an iPod, iMac or XBox. (I guess that's why I got a little ticked during the last half hour or so of last week's show... too much Mac product talk)
dann wrote:
Who knows, maybe oneday MS will finally release a more secure OS that is stable too!
This will NEVER happen because a working system is not good for business. Microsoft needs their customers to want something better (and believe they will get it in the next release), they need them to fuel the anti-virus market, they need them to keep coming in to the computer shops to pay to have their PCs remedied. A stable, secure system is NOT good business.

I've talked to a Mac owner from time to time (I've met more Linux users that Mac users, by the way... there aren't many of them around) and their systems aren't all that stable either, no matter what advertising Apple has brainwashed the public with.