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This video is hillarious and painful on how short it is, hope you guys help me find the complete version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9yk7LaMOBc

It's and old video (US ScreenSaver days)... no discussions about Linux or anything really interesting (what can I say, MicroShaft and Macintrash talk just bore me all to hell)... but this is the full segment....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0I_6p7s ... ed&search=

God I miss TechTV. I died a little the day those shitheads at G4 took over.

These days, you're probably not missing much. I CAN'T watch Leo (or any of the corporate sell-out side-kicks he's got) on the Canadian "Call for Help" program because he just makes me angry. Mac this and Mac that.... makes me want to throw something through the T.V. set. Again... it's just plain boring to me.

I never liked call for help, even after Leo took over. I did however love the Screen Savers, and love many of the other cool shows they had on there. Hell, even Kevin and Alex were far better than "Attack of the Show!" I actually cancelled my extra channels because I hate G4 so much, and the only *real* excuse I had to keep them was because I liked TechTV so much. I miss Robot Wars, but that's really about it.

yeah i did like big thinkers a lot

Judland wrote:These days, you're probably not missing much.

No kidding, with TLLTS you're getting TSS plus all the stuff you wouldn't see (hear) on there like swear words, honest opinions, and to most of us listeners dismay, the sound of german scat porn!

Judland wrote:I CAN'T watch Leo (or any of the corporate sell-out side-kicks he's got) on the Canadian "Call for Help" program because he just makes me angry. Mac this and Mac that.... makes me want to throw something through the T.V. set. Again... it's just plain boring to me.

David, you deserve a reward for that statement, if you have a PayPal account, PM the email adress of it and I'll send you a couple of bucks as soon as I get my VISA card!

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL-QjnZ_Yuc
Leo accidently leaks info about what he and uncle Steve uses every weekend at uncle Steve's house.

BIg thinkers rocked. My favorite was the great mind Michio Kaku. Excellent at describing to morons like me quantum physics.


As for the "schilldom" of Leo and the sidekicks on the TWiT network, I disagree. Each has their chosen ways and can substantiate it. Steve Gibson may be on Windows, but knows how to run it right (and admits its no simple task), and freely states, security wise, Linux and Mac p0wn Windows hands down.

Patrick Norton and Robert Heron on TWiT and DL.TV are quite honest about things too, and large advocates of Linux. Both are huge proponents of SuSE 10.1.


Dvorak is always a trip to listen to, and interesting how spin is created. He freely admits that from time to time.


As for Mac this and Mac that, when it comes down to it, my Macbook is leaps and bounds ahead of the Toshiba I own, which is not that much older. I got that a year ago, and my Mac a few months back, and OSX is great. Not linux, but I wasn't expecting that. I wanted something that was inexpensive and worked %100 and was not Windows based for full functionality. If I get another system, it will be either a Mac, a System76 or a Sun. Most likely a Mac Pro since I can run all 4 OS's that I need (Mac for me, Linux for me and work, Windows for gaming, and Sun for study and some sidework.)

Tsuroerusu wrote:David, you deserve a reward for that statement, if you have a PayPal account, PM the email adress of it and I'll send you a couple of bucks as soon as I get my VISA card!

Just speaking my mind... which always gets me into trouble; a reward for that isn't justified.

I know, Leo is just doing a job.... like myself, having to work on Microshaft crap at the office. However, I've got a dual boot system running and I only boot up with XP when it's necessary.

I also plug the Linux and open source at every opportunity. Our corporate IT guys hate me for it, but too bad. They don't want people asking for OpenOffice, they'd rather we just use what we're given. Well, if being more productive with less in expenditures was really important to the corporation, then my efforts would be more appreciated, I'm sure.

So, Leo's doing his job, and he's probably a very nice guy at heart, but if he really wanted to help people and the technology world then he'd be backing Linux and open source more. I just don't see it when I watch him (or hear him) on the programs. And I get tired of listening to people bitch about Microshaft and Macintrash, yet still support their business practices by buying and using their products.

"It really hurts when I smack this sledge hammer into my skull please help me relieve the pain! But stand back, because I've got to take some bigger swings now."

I guess I better get down off of my soap box now. Got to go prepare for the official release of Mandriva 2007 in a couple of days.

Judland wrote:

Tsuroerusu wrote:David, you deserve a reward for that statement, if you have a PayPal account, PM the email adress of it and I'll send you a couple of bucks as soon as I get my VISA card!

Just speaking my mind... which always gets me into trouble; a reward for that isn't justified.

You're too kind!

Judland wrote:So, Leo's doing his job, and he's probably a very nice guy at heart, but if he really wanted to help people and the technology world then he'd be backing Linux and open source more. I just don't see it when I watch him (or hear him) on the programs. And I get tired of listening to people bitch about Microshaft and Macintrash, yet still support their business practices by buying and using their products.

Whenever someone asks Leo about Linux on his KFI radio (n00b-)show, he immeaditly starts talking about it being difficult to install and paritioning has to be done manually, and software is impossible for anyone to install and every damn piece of FUD he can pull out of his ass, and only gets into the positive stuff as "bonus" or some extra like "oh I almost forgot to mention X,Y and Z". And when people suggests they buy Linux, which can simplify their migration by a long shot at times (Buy SLED for 50 bucks and you get full support from Novell, yeah I know it's enterprise support, but you're still a customer, damn it!) he always mocks and say something like "Naah just download it for free" he just always forgets to add "even though you may not know how".
I don't see how anyone who's like this could ever be supportive of Linux.

Judland wrote:Got to go prepare for the official release of Mandriva 2007 in a couple of days.

Yeah man, please tell me when you get it installed, I've been looking forward quite a lot to Mandriva 2007.

schotty wrote:
Patrick Norton and Robert Heron on TWiT and DL.TV are quite honest about things too, and large advocates of Linux. Both are huge proponents of SuSE 10.1.

I'd agree with you about Patrick, but Robert is a big Microsoft stooge. He always finds something wrong with Linux and is pretty much pro-DRM. When they talked about the new hackable DVR from Neuros on DL.TV, Robert pretty much beat it down saying why would anyone want to complicate their lives with it.

Tsuroerusu wrote:Yeah man, please tell me when you get it installed, I've been looking forward quite a lot to Mandriva 2007.

I'll most likely post about it on my blog... so keep your eyes open!

Got tired of crunching numbers, so I took a break and slapped together this idea for a Linux ad (I used Mandriva, but it could be used for most any Linux distro) just for fun.....

Mandriva Freedom Ad

Then there's this one that made me chuckle. I can just see it up on some big billboard or on the side of a bus somewhere. If I had the money to rent a billboard somewhere.... I would.

Tsuroerusu wrote: Whenever someone asks Leo about Linux on his KFI radio (n00b-)show, he immeaditly starts talking about it being difficult to install and paritioning has to be done manually, and software is impossible for anyone to install and every damn piece of FUD he can pull out of his ass, and only gets into the positive stuff as "bonus" or some extra like "oh I almost forgot to mention X,Y and Z". And when people suggests they buy Linux, which can simplify their migration by a long shot at times (Buy SLED for 50 bucks and you get full support from Novell, yeah I know it's enterprise support, but you're still a customer, damn it!) he always mocks and say something like "Naah just download it for free" he just always forgets to add "even though you may not know how".
I don't see how anyone who's like this could ever be supportive of Linux.

There's more FUD in your one paragraph then I have ever heard out of Leo's mouth. The truth is if linux just worked in the same manner that OSX just works the landscape would be much different.

You think Leo is going to recommend Suse or SLED to noobs and then say but first you need to rip out the package manager and replace it?

Look I use linux and I have high hopes for it. But the reality is that it's always behind in terms of usability for a noob. The reasons it's behind might be unfair and not the communities fault but that doesn't matter to a noob.

schotty wrote: If I get another system, it will be either a Mac, a System76 or a Sun. Most likely a Mac Pro since I can run all 4 OS's that I need (Mac for me, Linux for me and work, Windows for gaming, and Sun for study and some sidework.)

I am starting to really like system76, soon I will be shopping for a laptop and having a linux suported wifi box is definetly a plus. I still think the name is not very friendly, system76 sounds very close to 37signals the guys from Ruby on Rails. However neither are very appealing thought.

hellonorman wrote:There's more FUD in your one paragraph then I have ever heard out of Leo's mouth.

My examples were basically a lot of examples of stuff I have head Leo pull out of his ass, and then reason I use this term is because a lot of the time his knowledge of Linux is 2½ years old, even his knowledge of installation. The thing that bugs me the most though, is that when he talks about installing Linux he almost always assumes that the user wants to keep Windows around, and tells him that he has to partition manually and that stuff is complicated, and then when he gets into Macs, he just says something like "Ohh go get a Mac, it's so secure, and it can do this this this and this, and oh also this ...." and never assumes the user wants to keep Windows around and just throws in there "Ann you can run Windows too! And there's Parallels, ohh!", listen to this week's TLLTS, at the end of the show Dann mentions stuff about virtual machines and dual boot, and since I don't wanna rewrite what Dann said, just listen to him, his example is perfect.

hellonorman wrote:The truth is if linux just worked in the same manner that OSX just works the landscape would be much different.

I am told that if you use Linspire, this is the case.

hellonorman wrote:You think Leo is going to recommend Suse or SLED to noobs and then say but first you need to rip out the package manager and replace it?

SLED was just an example, you could go buy Linspire if you wanted to.
SLED 10's pacakge manager works fine, come on, do you really think Novell would release something for the enterprise that was broken out of the box? That's what Microshaft does these days!!
Why would you want to buy an OS, that gets compromised by worms and gets into botnets about 15 mins. after you start surfing the net? I think that's even worse than having to throw out the package manager in SUSE 10.1 (SLED 10 works fine AFAIK).

hellonorman wrote:Look I use linux and I have high hopes for it. But the reality is that it's always behind in terms of usability for a noob.

And why is that? Look at what KDE is doing with KDE 4, when you disconnect your network, all the KDE apps is automatically gonna know that you're not connected to the web and then KMail won't try to check for new email, aKregator won't fetch new stories via RSS etc. etc.
Plus Linux may lag a little bit today, but for basic computer users I don't see that lag, and if it's there, please point to it, I have set my mom up with Mandriva 2006 and she's perfect happy.

hellonorman wrote:The reasons it's behind might be unfair and not the communities fault but that doesn't matter to a noob.

OK, do me a favor, install Mandriva 2007 when it comes out, and tell me what's missing from the point of a new user? Mandriva 2007 will have legal DVD and MP3 playback, and lots of other stuff, tell me what's missing and I'll see to that what can be fixed will get on the openSUSE wishlists for 10.3.