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Well, to far, it's been as easy as ubuntu has been for along while. A word of caution....if you wandered a bit from the standard repos on Dapper, the dist-upgrade breaks your system.....at least it did mine. Since I am a lazy bastard and I also was going to download the CD anyway, I downloaded it and did a fresh install. I also downloaded dapper's Easyubuntu and got it working by copying the packages-dapper.xml file in /use/lib/easyubuntu to packages-edgy.xml and ran it and got 90 percent of what I needed except the packages.freecontrib.or server is a bit overloaded now! We'll wait on DVD and MP3.

Firefox 2.0 is in Edgy and is VERY good. The browser is fast and the integrated spell check is sweet for forum posts like this!

The shit brown is more like shit beige now and is actually pleasing to look at (for me). I tried the new Rythmbox on the binrev stream and it streams very nicely.

The Xchat client that ships on Edgy is awesome. It's very easy to log in to multiple IRC servers and easy to switch between them all. All in all, a nice option.

Everything else works as it always has and I am looking forward to the new 2.6.18 kernel hitting Ubuntu in the near future. All in all, I am quite happy with the changes that have been made. I also think they made the right choice to ship with 2.6.17. Why do I say that? Well, I am not sure why, but when I tried Fedora Core 6 (also a great release for this week) and I had just installed flash 9 (BETA) and was playing aroudn on a couple sites, Fedora Locked up my laptop. Not sure why this is. They only real difference I noticed was FC6 has firefox 1.5 in it. That COULD be it but then Firefox should have just crashed right? Anyway, lookingforward to further updates. OH and my install was done in about 15-20 minutes. Even though I have a few more things to do (MP3 and DVD) it's very useable now. I'll just have to wait until the freecontrib package server is back up and it should work just fine.

Congrats to Mark Shuttleworth, Jono Bacon and the rest of the staff at Canonical and other people who have put together a very solid release....YET AGAIN!

I'll be upgrading the main workstation this weekend. I installed FC6 on my testing box. I will give details on both on next week's show and my blog.

Patrick wrote:I'll be upgrading the main workstation this weekend. I installed FC6 on my testing box. I will give details on both on next week's show and my blog.

Cool. Let me know how FC6 works on your testing box. My laptop had issues with FC6. The hard lock was a deal breaker. I liked it...it was very beautiful. The login screen was gorgeous. But one thing I noticed and it may be because the repos are overloaded, but yum did not seam ANY faster to me. I almost went back and put KDE instead of Gnome on it, but decided against it. The shat brown is very understated now in Ubuntu.

Install Arch. C'mon. You know you wanna!

Snarkout wrote:Install Arch. C'mon. You know you wanna!

No I don't wanna. I need to be able to USE it.....don't want to MUCK with installing it. Don't get me wrong....I can troubleshoot things pretty well, but I want to USE my laptop and not spend half a day getting everything to work.

Went searching through synaptic and noticed that Jokosher is in the repository now! May record a little something something......

Went searching through synaptic and noticed that Jokosher is in the repository now. May record a little something something......

Warning now...still VERY unstable. Was crashing alot.

gorkon wrote:

Snarkout wrote:Install Arch. C'mon. You know you wanna!

No I don't wanna. I need to be able to USE it.....don't want to MUCK with installing it. Don't get me wrong....I can troubleshoot things pretty well, but I want to USE my laptop and not spend half a day getting everything to work.

That's half a day every week, man.

gorkon wrote:

Snarkout wrote:Install Arch. C'mon. You know you wanna!

No I don't wanna. I need to be able to USE it.....don't want to MUCK with installing it. Don't get me wrong....I can troubleshoot things pretty well, but I want to USE my laptop and not spend half a day getting everything to work.

It's not worth half a day's work configuring a distro like Arch for increased performance down the road? I can't imagine Arch would be more time consuming than Ubuntu once you get it up and running. I mean Slackware can take awhile to configure initially, but once it's up and running, it runs forever with very little intervention. To each his own, I guess.

Wally Balljacker wrote:

gorkon wrote:

Snarkout wrote:Install Arch. C'mon. You know you wanna!

No I don't wanna. I need to be able to USE it.....don't want to MUCK with installing it. Don't get me wrong....I can troubleshoot things pretty well, but I want to USE my laptop and not spend half a day getting everything to work.

It's not worth half a day's work configuring a distro like Arch for increased performance down the road? I can't imagine Arch would be more time consuming than Ubuntu once you get it up and running. I mean Slackware can take awhile to configure initially, but once it's up and running, it runs forever with very little intervention. To each his own, I guess.

No...I don't really need those extra nano seconds. Performance tuning is one thing on a web server, or server, but to go through 2-3 hours of configuration just so my system is as fast as can be? Nah.....

I'm waiting for the unhappy comments about Edgy and how it breaks a system when a system upgrade is performed.

Many other distros has been criticized by some individuals for such things, yet no one has commented on Edgy's upgrade shortcomings yet.

Hmmmmm.....

Judland wrote:I'm waiting for the unhappy comments about Edgy and how it breaks a system when a system upgrade is performed.

Many other distros has been criticized by some individuals for such things, yet no one has commented on Edgy's upgrade shortcomings yet.

Hmmmmm.....

Well it worked like a champ for Kubuntu for AMD64. I simply changed all the references from dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and did a dist-upgrade. It worked flawlessly as far as I can tell.

On the kubuntu page there is a little how-to that indicates a few other packages you'll need, too. So far, I've never been able to do a dist-upgrade from one version to another of *buntu. I can't imagine things will be any different this time around. It doesn't really matter, though, since I might as well do a clean install for my wife in any event.

FWIW, Gork, I understand your position and was mostly joking anyhow. I also wasn't joking that I really do spend at least a few hours a week tweaking my box. In general, though, this isn't fixing breakage, it's installing new stuff and figuring out how it works. So far I've never had to reinstall the OS on this box - fix occasional breakage, sure. I personally dislike the 6 month reinstall-fest that most distros seem to be keen on these days. I can't imagine how difficult it must be for the arch folks to maintain this release system.

Patrick wrote:Well it worked like a champ for Kubuntu for AMD64. I simply changed all the references from dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and did a dist-upgrade. It worked flawlessly as far as I can tell.

That's great! Luckily, you must be one of the 71.63%... according to this.

Patrick wrote:

Judland wrote:I'm waiting for the unhappy comments about Edgy and how it breaks a system when a system upgrade is performed.

Many other distros has been criticized by some individuals for such things, yet no one has commented on Edgy's upgrade shortcomings yet.

Hmmmmm.....

Well it worked like a champ for Kubuntu for AMD64. I simply changed all the references from dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and did a dist-upgrade. It worked flawlessly as far as I can tell.

My Ubuntu install was completely borked. However, this was because I did all sorts of crazy shit with the install(installing stuff by hand and what not), so I reserve most of my judgement. I didn't have anything I wanted to save on the disk anyway so I blew it away and re-installed.