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So the Mac Team at the OpenOffice.org community has bee working hard and give us sneak peaks from the first Aqua interface from OpenOffice.org

Great post can be found here

Like they say in the mafia: "Keep your friends closer, and your enemies closer".

Tsuroerusu wrote:Like they say in the mafia: "Keep your friends closer, and your enemies closer".

OS X is OpenOffice's enemy?

Wally Balljacker wrote:

Tsuroerusu wrote:Like they say in the mafia: "Keep your friends closer, and your enemies closer".

OS X is OpenOffice's enemy?

Well, would you regard Apple as a friend of open source? I sure wouldn't, but that's a matter of opinion I guess.

Tsuroerusu wrote:

Wally Balljacker wrote:

Tsuroerusu wrote:Like they say in the mafia: "Keep your friends closer, and your enemies closer".

OS X is OpenOffice's enemy?

Well, would you regard Apple as a friend of open source? I sure wouldn't, but that's a matter of opinion I guess.

Sure. Apple employs several FreeBSD developers, and also releases the entire core of OS X under their Apple Public Source License, which is approved by the Open Source Initiative, as well as the Free Software Foundation. There's nothing stopping you from building OS X from source code and running X11/KDE on top of it. In fact, there was a project called OpenDarwin that did just that, but has since ceased development due to a lack of interest.

Treols , this time around Wally Balljacker is right

Apple have given back much more to the community that m$ .
You can still download darwin and put x11 http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

Ive no idea what's the difference between darwin and opendarwin.

The recent addtion into FreeBSD 6.2 of support for CAPP security event auditing is a actual mac osx implementation , which is not small feat.

I know i bash wally for using mac osx, but apple do give back which should be credited where due.

allix wrote:Ive no idea what's the difference between darwin and opendarwin.

Darwin is the open source operating system in which Mac OS X is built on. OpenDarwin was the project that built a Free/Open distribution around it. Darwin is still actively developed by Apple, but there is no packaged distribution of it AFAIK, only source tarballs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28 ... _system%29

Going back to the Aqua port of OpenOffice, I do hope it runs faster than NeoOffice, but I actually think the latest NeoOffice looks better, particularly with the icons they're using. Of course, I'd take speed over looks in the case of NeoOffice, which is dog slow starting up on pretty much every Mac I've tried.

Despite the slowness, massive kudos go to the NeoOffice devs for making OpenOffice usable on OS X. Seriously, I didn't mind the X11 port, but when you take away the standard print dialogs from average users, it's brutal. NeoOffice allowed me to ditch MS Office with most of the new computers we bought, saving us money and allowing us to use ODF. Now if only I could train them to send those documents in a different format for people who don't have OpenOffice...

Vogateer wrote:saving us money and allowing us to use ODF.

True, this is why I used the quote I did. I don't think doing a true Mac port (aka using Aqua) of OpenOffice.org is a bad thing, nor do I think KDE porting stuff like Kontact to OS X is a bad thing. If it gets even just 10 people to say "Gee these programs are really cool, maybe I ought to try this Lajnix thing out afterall!" (Couldn't resist that joke) it'd be worth it, or so I think. And in the case of ODF, it would bring with it more standardization. Sure Mac people could use the X11 version of OpenOffice.org, but as Vogateer points out, that is not a very attractive solution for most people.

While a native implementation of OO is a good thing I won't hold my breath for Apple to contribute anything back to the community. Their track record speaks for itself.

Actuallly Apple haven't given much back to the community, from what I heard KDE developers have never got much response from apple when they took KTML to support Safari.

Also the darwin project is pretty much stale and not of the kernel implementations of OSX (micro kernels) are in darwin.

That said, having OpenOffice.org on OSX is very important since OSX can't steal Microsoft Office like the M$ people do. So this is an advantage on looking for alternatives like OpenOffice.org. Also most OSX users that has to face paying $500 for an office box do see the overpriced software to fill a relatively trivial need.

However this has nothing to do with OSX, the point is that OpenOffice.org has support OSX, BSD, Linux, Solaris and Windows and just like a lot of work is going into OOo behaving good with Vista, so there is improvements to OSX.

None of the developers that I know of are from Apple, all of the developers are independent and just recently Sun put some developers on this build.

Jza wrote:Actuallly Apple haven't given much back to the community, from what I heard KDE developers have never got much response from apple when they took KTML to support Safari.

From what I've heard, this situation is getting better, but believe me, the only reason that is the case, is because the KDE developers really came out kind of said: THIS SUCKS!!

If anyone doesn't believe me, see for yourself: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1001, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1010.