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Interesting ??

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:08 am
by spotslayer
This could be an interesting thread to some.

http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.p ... ;topicseen

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:50 am
by CptnObvious999
I have seen this some but I think this is only a transition point and after a while most programs that are still maintained can be run on Vista. If not though, this could definitely help Linux. If people are finding that programs they usually install no longer work no longer work on the preinstalled Vista they are more likely to say 'well if I have to learn something new I might as well try Linux' or something like that.

Also the concern about hardware requirements is so often used and IMHO usually wrong. With every KDE 3.x release things have only improved in speed for as far I can remember. KDE 4.x is going to be even more so. (sorry I'm not sure about Gnome as I don't use it often) Also the kernel seems to be getting more features that could potentially speed it up once in a while as well as some base libraries. The only thing that might expand is the RAM required but I don't think it would expand that much that fast. Standard computers come with way more RAM then is necessary and it keeps increasing dramatically, not to mention the memory management of Linux is much better IMHO. So yes maybe over time most distributions will need more powerfull hardware, that is a good thing as more features are included and more demands are placed on it. With Linux the code is just more optimized so you get the most performance possible for each feature.

The way I see it as hardware is getting say 2x faster than it was while Linux is requiring 1.1x the power than it did (if that) in the same time frequence. So as far as I'm concerned it is not a problem.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:19 am
by spotslayer
I agree with this summary. I am also interested in the fact that folks are abandoning Vista and reverting to XP. This may be the crack that opens things up for alternative OS's.

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CptnObvious999 wrote:I have seen this some but I think this is only a transition point and after a while most programs that are still maintained can be run on Vista. If not though, this could definitely help Linux. If people are finding that programs they usually install no longer work no longer work on the preinstalled Vista they are more likely to say 'well if I have to learn something new I might as well try Linux' or something like that.

Also the concern about hardware requirements is so often used and IMHO usually wrong. With every KDE 3.x release things have only improved in speed for as far I can remember. KDE 4.x is going to be even more so. (sorry I'm not sure about Gnome as I don't use it often) Also the kernel seems to be getting more features that could potentially speed it up once in a while as well as some base libraries. The only thing that might expand is the RAM required but I don't think it would expand that much that fast. Standard computers come with way more RAM then is necessary and it keeps increasing dramatically, not to mention the memory management of Linux is much better IMHO. So yes maybe over time most distributions will need more powerfull hardware, that is a good thing as more features are included and more demands are placed on it. With Linux the code is just more optimized so you get the most performance possible for each feature.

The way I see it as hardware is getting say 2x faster than it was while Linux is requiring 1.1x the power than it did (if that) in the same time frequence. So as far as I'm concerned it is not a problem.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:44 pm
by allix
That is good news, they will always be certain areas where the fastest machines just don't cut it ie pixar animated films, which on huge clusters take months possible over a year to get rendered. It still can take a fair amount of time to convert high quality video content, especially now with high definition. Even high resolution photos can take a while to add effects.
A lot of people do say "why does a office suite need 512mb ram when i did exactly the same in the 80s and 90s" of course we know that its because office suits now are far more sophisticated and full of features that never came across anybodies mind back then.

I think when a lot more games are ported to GNU/Linux , we will see a mass migration.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:44 pm
by metrolinux
spotslayer wrote:I agree with this summary. I am also interested in the fact that folks are abandoning Vista and reverting to XP. This may be the crack that opens things up for alternative OS's.

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I can see this working out great. Now, all we need is Gutsy Gibbon embarassing Apple's Leopard release in October. Hopefully Compiz Fusion will be tied in completely by then. That would truly make 2007 the "Year of the Desktop" or at least the year before the year of the desktop. :D