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Hi guys, I have a thought for a show. I have been reading a bit about the linuxbios project. I would sure like to know more about it. It seems not much has been done with laptops, but would sure be interested in hearing about the project. Imagine a computer that will boot in 15 or so seconds.

David

Its a interesting project, i happen to have the GIGABYTE GA-M57SLI-S4 which is supported, however there are problems which is why i am not using it.
ACPI is not supported as well as powernow and PCI add-on cards.

spotslayer wrote:It seems not much has been done with laptops

The reason is that no laptop manufacturer has released the specs needed make LinuxBIOS work on a laptop. You have to remember that we're dealing with the very early processes in a PC when it starts, so you gotta do things like initialize PCI, bugfix PCI, initialize the CPU and stuff like that.

If you'd like to know more, I'd suggest watching this talk by Ron Minnich (One of the guys from the LinuxBIOS project) from FOSDEM 2007: http://video.fosdem.org/2007/FOSDEM2007-LinuxBios.ogg.
Lots of good information, and you'll get a few good laughs from watching it as well, I guarantee!

Contrats to tllts on the LJ thing/ Keep up the good work.

I have several servers, but they are interal only. I do not feel safe letting the world at them. I did send email from an internel email server to an outside address and promptly got a coll from coimcast to my answering machine about wanting to check on my settings. A show about an introduction to server security might be nice also

I'd like to talk to the openbios people as well. I've attempted to contact them several times now with no response back. There are a couple of projects like this. Either they're just too busy or don't want to talk to us. Who knows?

Tsuroerusu wrote:

spotslayer wrote:It seems not much has been done with laptops

The reason is that no laptop manufacturer has released the specs needed make LinuxBIOS work on a laptop. You have to remember that we're dealing with the very early processes in a PC when it starts, so you gotta do things like initialize PCI, bugfix PCI, initialize the CPU and stuff like that.

If you'd like to know more, I'd suggest watching this talk by Ron Minnich (One of the guys from the LinuxBIOS project) from FOSDEM 2007: http://video.fosdem.org/2007/FOSDEM2007-LinuxBios.ogg.
Lots of good information, and you'll get a few good laughs from watching it as well, I guarantee!

I understand this and have done much research myself. It seems that IBM or rather lenovo would be open to something like this. IBM has published many papers on this subject well before lenovo took over. Asus has several mother boards that are supported so maybe they could pick up the project.


D

spotslayer wrote:

Tsuroerusu wrote:

spotslayer wrote:It seems not much has been done with laptops

The reason is that no laptop manufacturer has released the specs needed make LinuxBIOS work on a laptop. You have to remember that we're dealing with the very early processes in a PC when it starts, so you gotta do things like initialize PCI, bugfix PCI, initialize the CPU and stuff like that.

If you'd like to know more, I'd suggest watching this talk by Ron Minnich (One of the guys from the LinuxBIOS project) from FOSDEM 2007: http://video.fosdem.org/2007/FOSDEM2007-LinuxBios.ogg.
Lots of good information, and you'll get a few good laughs from watching it as well, I guarantee!

I understand this and have done much research myself. It seems that IBM or rather lenovo would be open to something like this. IBM has published many papers on this subject well before lenovo took over. Asus has several mother boards that are supported so maybe they could pick up the project.


D

Actually, in the video you hear Ron Minnich say that DARPA actually gave IBM money to make LinuxBIOS run on laptops, but they still refused to do it. And then the laptop part of IBM got sold to Lenovo, however I doubt that they're interested.

AMD has been very supportive of the LinuxBIOS project, unlike a certain other major manufacturer of computer processors. Also, Asus can't really do much if people like Intel won't release documentation about their chipsets. NVIDIA earlier this year gave AMD permission, to release some stuff about some chipsets from NVIDIA that implements some AMD technology like HyperTransport. Although not enough to make ACPI work on the board the Allix has, so cleanroom reverse engineering is needed to get that done.

Tsuroerusu wrote:

spotslayer wrote:

Tsuroerusu wrote: The reason is that no laptop manufacturer has released the specs needed make LinuxBIOS work on a laptop. You have to remember that we're dealing with the very early processes in a PC when it starts, so you gotta do things like initialize PCI, bugfix PCI, initialize the CPU and stuff like that.

If you'd like to know more, I'd suggest watching this talk by Ron Minnich (One of the guys from the LinuxBIOS project) from FOSDEM 2007: http://video.fosdem.org/2007/FOSDEM2007-LinuxBios.ogg.
Lots of good information, and you'll get a few good laughs from watching it as well, I guarantee!

D

Actually, in the video you hear Ron Minnich say that DARPA actually gave IBM money to make LinuxBIOS run on laptops, but they still refused to do it. And then the laptop part of IBM got sold to Lenovo, however I doubt that they're interested.

AMD has been very supportive of the LinuxBIOS project, unlike a certain other major manufacturer of computer processors. Also, Asus can't really do much if people like Intel won't release documentation about their chipsets. NVIDIA earlier this year gave AMD permission, to release some stuff about some chipsets from NVIDIA that implements some AMD technology like HyperTransport. Although not enough to make ACPI work on the board the Allix has, so cleanroom reverse engineering is needed to get that done.

Darn I'm sorry to hear there is so little hope. I just would like to hear an interview. I wish Pat luck. Maybe someone would reply and he could line one up. It would be of interest to me.

spotslayer wrote:

Tsuroerusu wrote:

spotslayer wrote: D

Actually, in the video you hear Ron Minnich say that DARPA actually gave IBM money to make LinuxBIOS run on laptops, but they still refused to do it. And then the laptop part of IBM got sold to Lenovo, however I doubt that they're interested.

AMD has been very supportive of the LinuxBIOS project, unlike a certain other major manufacturer of computer processors. Also, Asus can't really do much if people like Intel won't release documentation about their chipsets. NVIDIA earlier this year gave AMD permission, to release some stuff about some chipsets from NVIDIA that implements some AMD technology like HyperTransport. Although not enough to make ACPI work on the board the Allix has, so cleanroom reverse engineering is needed to get that done.

Darn I'm sorry to hear there is so little hope. I just would like to hear an interview. I wish Pat luck. Maybe someone would reply and he could line one up. It would be of interest to me.

Yeah, same here!