Microsoft stretched ‘Capable’ criteria to help Intel

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Microsoft stretched ‘Capable’ criteria to help Intel

Post by LinuxMint-4 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:08 pm

November 14, 2008 |
Microsoft stretched ‘Capable’ criteria to help Intel
By John Lister


http://vista.blorge.com/2008/11/14/micr ... elp-intel/

Microsoft stretched 'Capable' criteria to help Intel Newly released court documents confirm Microsoft relaxed its criteria for declaring a computer ‘Vista Capable’ after lobbying from Intel. The chipmaker complained that the original rules would exclude some of its products and cause lost business in the billions.

The documents are part of an ongoing case in which computer buyers claim they were misled into buying machines marked as ‘Vista Capable’ without realising that could mean the computers only ran the most basic edition of the operating system, without features such as the Aero graphics ‘glass’ display.

The original draft of the Vista Capable criteria, written in December 2005, required a system titled Windows Device Driver Model. In August that year, an internal e-mail described the requirement as “fundamental to user experience, stability, quality, productivity, performance, etc…”

However, Intel discovered its 915 range of graphics chips, released the previous year, couldn’t meet this requirement. The firm asked Microsoft to delay the launch of the scheme to allow it to supply computer manufacturers with chips that did meet the requirement. It said not delaying the launch would “cost us significant business”; an internal Microsoft e-mail cited in the filing says Intel reported the loss would be in the billions.

Microsoft’s response to these filings reveals Intel head Paul Otellini even discussed the problems on the phone with Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, who passed on the concerns to other Microsoft staff. The filing stresses that Ballmer didn’t tell his underlings how to respond to those concerns, reiterating a previous argument that he didn’t make any operation decisions and thus shouldn’t testify in court.

On 30 January 2006, Microsoft told Intel it was dropping the requirement. It wasn’t a popular decision with everyone at Microsoft. An e-mail from Mike Ybarra, director of product management (which is included in the new filings but had already been made public) complained:

This kind of shit drives me crazy… at the last minute we cave into Intel and give 915 and other chipsets a backdoor into the programs. I hate the idea of a consumer upgrading a PC that we have marked as ‘Vista Capable’ and not getting the great user interface experience.

There’s no guarantee the new filings will be the smoking gun which loses the case for Microsoft. But it does make clear that Microsoft was willing to bow to industry pressure at the potential expense of consumer satisfaction.
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Re: Microsoft stretched ‘Capable’ criteria to help Intel

Post by dann » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:03 pm

Maybe someone could clarify something here for me. Did Intel ask MS to hold off on releasing the specs/requirements/tool or whatever until they were able to get chips into the hands of manufacturers that met the specs; but MS decided to drop the requirement instead of delaying? Or, did intel request that MS not release the specs/requirement/tool or whatever that would reveal the 915 chipset did not meet the requirements for Vista, thus not delaying the release and commit consumer fraud?

Situation one put culpability on MS, situation 2 shares culpability between MS and Intel.

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Re: Microsoft stretched ‘Capable’ criteria to help Intel

Post by jturning » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:46 pm

From what I read on eweek.com, Intel contacted Microsoft who changed the requirement because it would cost Intel a lot of money. So both are culpable.

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Re: Microsoft stretched ‘Capable’ criteria to help Intel

Post by eddie » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:34 pm

The original argument does not make sense, There are too many other operating systems that could take the place of Microsoft, Now if ms was allegedly giving intel a kickback then I could see how they might lose money.. That opens another can of worms the doj might want to look into.. Did intel allegedly threaten to blow the whistle if they did not get their usual number of alleged kickbacks?

As long as it took to get out Vista, one would of thought that the logisitics of making a compatible os and hardware would have been solved. Especially true as long as Intel and MS have worked together. This also again especially true since the head of Microsoft allegedly has an MBA (Masters of Business Administration) from Stanford University. (rhetorical)How many free versions of MS windows does it take to earn an MBA?

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