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Start-up to help people sell unwanted MP3s

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:39 pm
by greggh
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10120391-93.html
"Stop illegally sharing, and start legally selling" is the tagline for a start-up that wants to enable music owners to sell their unwanted MP3s.

Ernesto at the blog TorrentFreak has a story about Bopaboo, which has created a digital marketplace where users operate mini download stores.

Bopaboo buyers can search for music in all the usual ways, and the site offers a seller rating to help shoppers learn a merchant's reputation. Sellers register and then are given an MP3 store, where they can upload the music they want to sell. No DRM-wrapped music is allowed, so iTunes owners like me are blocked from selling.

According to TorrentFreak, there is no limit on the number of songs that can be offered. Sellers select their own prices but, of course, must cut Bopaboo a percentage of sales.

This was an idea bound to emerge out of the craze over songs stripped of digital rights management software. People have traded DVDs, mixed tapes, and albums for decades.

Bopaboo says the site is legal, and it sounds like it should be. Don't people own their MP3s? We'll see.
Okay, here's the juice from Bopaboo CEO Alex Meshkin, a 28-year-old who didn't go to college, doesn't know programming but once ran Toyota's Nascar team. Yes, Nascar team.

I put the most important question to him first. Why don't you think the recording industry is going to sue you into oblivion?

"Obviously MP3s are very easy to duplicate," said Meshkin, who said Bopaboo is a Washington DC-based company founded a year ago. "It's very difficult to tell the difference between a so-called new copy and a so-called old copy... I can buy a CD and I can rip it and that behavior has basically been endorsed by the music industry. I can resell that CD on Amazon. The industry doesn't have a way to monetize physical goods being traded on the secondary market. The first-sale doctrine protects that right. In the physical world consumers have the right to resell their property and copyright owners can't do anything about that."
The RIAA is gonna go nuts over this.

If you buy a DRM free MP3, don't you own it? If you own it, isn't it your property? If it's your property, aren't you entitled to re-sell it, just like your CDs?

There are going to be some interesting lawsuits and legal questions over this.

Re: Start-up to help people sell unwanted MP3s

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:19 pm
by LinuxMint-4
greggh wrote:http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10120391-93.html
"Stop illegally sharing, and start legally selling" is the tagline for a start-up that wants to enable music owners to sell their unwanted MP3s.

Ernesto at the blog TorrentFreak has a story about Bopaboo, which has created a digital marketplace where users operate mini download stores.

Bopaboo buyers can search for music in all the usual ways, and the site offers a seller rating to help shoppers learn a merchant's reputation. Sellers register and then are given an MP3 store, where they can upload the music they want to sell. No DRM-wrapped music is allowed, so iTunes owners like me are blocked from selling.

According to TorrentFreak, there is no limit on the number of songs that can be offered. Sellers select their own prices but, of course, must cut Bopaboo a percentage of sales.

This was an idea bound to emerge out of the craze over songs stripped of digital rights management software. People have traded DVDs, mixed tapes, and albums for decades.

Bopaboo says the site is legal, and it sounds like it should be. Don't people own their MP3s? We'll see.
Okay, here's the juice from Bopaboo CEO Alex Meshkin, a 28-year-old who didn't go to college, doesn't know programming but once ran Toyota's Nascar team. Yes, Nascar team.

I put the most important question to him first. Why don't you think the recording industry is going to sue you into oblivion?

"Obviously MP3s are very easy to duplicate," said Meshkin, who said Bopaboo is a Washington DC-based company founded a year ago. "It's very difficult to tell the difference between a so-called new copy and a so-called old copy... I can buy a CD and I can rip it and that behavior has basically been endorsed by the music industry. I can resell that CD on Amazon. The industry doesn't have a way to monetize physical goods being traded on the secondary market. The first-sale doctrine protects that right. In the physical world consumers have the right to resell their property and copyright owners can't do anything about that."
The RIAA is gonna go nuts over this.

If you buy a DRM free MP3, don't you own it? If you own it, isn't it your property? If it's your property, aren't you entitled to re-sell it, just like your CDs?

There are going to be some interesting lawsuits and legal questions over this.
If I remember correctly, when stores starting selling used CD's the industry was all over them too. I kind of remembered Garth Brooks later was one of those leading the charge against used CD's. This was about 15 years ago.

I think MP3's are different, where as a used CD, used vinyl LP, or used DVD or Video tape is something you can look at and see if it was genuine and real. How would one determine if a original MP3 is legit or not? And who makes that determination?

Re: Start-up to help people sell unwanted MP3s

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:01 pm
by dann
Some greedy asshole steps up to set back all the anti-drm work done already. What a hero! The only thing something like this is going to do is have the record companies turn their ship around on not drm'ing their files.

I can somewhat see the logic here, but the point is how to you confirm the mp3 you are getting from the person is the legitimate version and not a copy?

Re: Start-up to help people sell unwanted MP3s

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:07 pm
by greggh
This question of whether or not a digital copy can be legally re-sold, is really the question of whether "information" is really "property". It isn't. And the realization of this crucial fact will also eventually lead people to the realization that copyright has no suitability, and no compatibility, with the digital networked age.

Re: Start-up to help people sell unwanted MP3s

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:24 pm
by MattKingUSA
That's an asinine thing to say. Of course it's property. And it should be traded and treated as property. Don't get all philosophical about mp3s. They're original content manufactured to be sold. They're not yours they belong to the creators. You freedom Nazis are just ridiculous.