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Who owns your computer? or why not to use mono.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:15 am
by eddie
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2 ... ystems.ars
Who owns your computer? Microsoft wants to decide what you can and can not do with your computer. They are in effect going to hold your computer hostage for their own needs, It seems to looks like that if you do something with your computer that Microsoft does not get a piece of the pie, they will lock your computer down until they do. Adolph Hiltler would have loved Microsoft. This is the ultimate narcissism in corporate mentaility. Shame on them.
Re: Who owns your computer? or why not to use mono.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:19 am
by Patrick
Get rid of Mono:
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sudo apt-get purge libmono0 mono-common
And then those annoying Gnome based apps:
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sudo apt-get remove rhythmbox f-spot tomboy evolution evolution-common evolution-exchange evolution-plugins evolution-webcal gnome-games gnome-games-data
Re: Who owns your computer? or why not to use mono.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 6:25 am
by eddie
Thanks, I will use that code today!
Re: Who owns your computer? or why not to use mono.
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 7:21 am
by greggh
Vid clip of Stallman on Mono in 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqpLWzPRfvU
Edit: Apparently shortly after he said that he became more concerned about Mono being a serious problem.
http://www.mail-archive.com/foundation- ... 02666.html
Re: GNOME dependent on Mono
Richard Stallman
Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:32:43 -0800
There are some components in GNOME that optionally integrate with Mono-based
tools, particularly Beagle. Yelp can depends on 'libbeagle' which provides
an interface to Beagle for C-based applications, but itself does not depend
on Mono at all.
That is a relief. However, this statement is disturbing:
You can remove Mono from modern FLOSS desktop systems without removing
GNOME itself, though you'll miss out on some cool stuff like f-spot,
Beagle, Tomboy and so on.
The more "cool stuff" depends on Mono, the closer we get to a
situation where a Microsoft attack on Mono would put GNOME in a vice.
If these programs are important enough to deserve the term "miss out on",
then I think they should be written in another language.
and
http://markmail.org/message/ajpdumn5r2axxd4q
Subject: GNOME dependent on Mono Actions...
From: Richard Stallman (rm...@gnu.org)
Date: Nov 28, 2007 5:03:15 pm
List: org.gnome.foundation-list
I read
http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/05/gnome-mono-yelp/ with great concern.
Since I am not an expert, I cannot tell on my own if that description of the situation is accurate. If part of it is not accurate, I hope someone will explain. However, if it is accurate, GNOME has a serious problem.
I have always supported the development of free platforms for C#, just as I've supported the development of free platforms for any language that users use. I also wouldn't argue that people should not use C# with a free platform for secondary applications.
However, making GNOME depend on Mono is running a grave risk, and a grave mistake. If the article accurately describes the situation, I think we need to launch a high-priority project to reimplement Yelp in some other language.
The use of code from Firefox in a way that might cause trademark problems is also a serious issue. The solution might not be difficult -- it may be enough to remove the trademark in the sources used by GNOME wherever that is necessary -- but the solution does need to be carried out.
The nontechnical impact of these issues vastly exceeds the technical impact, so considering them only in technical terms is fundamentally misguided. In this sort of decision, the Foundation should intervene and decide based on the nontechnical issues at stake. If those who work for Novell tell us not to worry, we should not listen to them.
Re: Who owns your computer? or why not to use mono.
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:52 pm
by eddie
The plot thickens....
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/0/
We use three open source licenses:
* The C# compiler is dual-licensed under the MIT/X11 license and
the
GNU General Public License
(
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.html) (GPL).
* The tools are released under the terms of the GNU General Public
License (
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.html) (GPL).
* The runtime libraries are under the GNU Library GPL 2.0
(
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/library.html#TOC1) (LGPL 2.0).
* The class libraries are released under the terms of the MIT X11
(
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.html) license.
You can find more details regarding Mono's licenses on our License page:
http://mono-project.com/License
Hope that helps
Joseph Hill
Product Manager for Mono