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Debian questions

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:14 pm
by Shack
Hey guys! Just wanted to ask a few questions. I cant seem to get some tings to work.

Wine! Yes, there are some Windows apps I would like to use in linux. Like games. How do i get Wine to install. The Wine site says use synaptic and add the Wine depository to it. Well, Synaptic tells me the files are not there.

What am I doing wrong? I want the newer version of Wine.

KDE? Can and how to I add KDE to Debian? Should I just get a different disto? I need something newbie friendly yet powerful and not bloated.

Thanks!

Re: Debian questions

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:53 pm
by Wally Balljacker
Shack wrote:Hey guys! Just wanted to ask a few questions. I cant seem to get some tings to work.

Wine! Yes, there are some Windows apps I would like to use in linux. Like games. How do i get Wine to install. The Wine site says use synaptic and add the Wine depository to it. Well, Synaptic tells me the files are not there.

What am I doing wrong? I want the newer version of Wine.

KDE? Can and how to I add KDE to Debian? Should I just get a different disto? I need something newbie friendly yet powerful and not bloated.

Thanks!
WINE is already in the official Debian repositories. Just do a simple "apt-get install wine" command. If you want a newer version of WINE, you could try installing the testing/unstable version from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/wine.

On my system, KDE was installed along with GNOME by default. Not sure why yours wasn't. To install KDE, you can do a simple "apt-get install kde" command as well.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:30 pm
by dann
I echo that. When I used Debian a few months back KDE and Gnome were installed with KDE being set as the default. I forget exactly what installation choice I made, but I thought it was something like graphical workstation.

Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:55 pm
by Tsuroerusu
dann wrote:Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.
Couldn't agree more. I acknowledge that Wine has come a long way considering how proprietary the Windows APIs are, but I've actually never used it for anything serious, except for TransGaming fork, Cedega. Works very very well with a nice Geforce4 Ti-4200 and Warcraft III, no difference from playing the game in Windows, no performance loss, nothing! :D :wink:

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:59 pm
by CptnObvious999
Tsuroerusu wrote:
dann wrote:Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.
Couldn't agree more. I acknowledge that Wine has come a long way considering how proprietary the Windows APIs are, but I've actually never used it for anything serious, except for TransGaming fork, Cedega. Works very very well with a nice Geforce4 Ti-4200 and Warcraft III, no difference from playing the game in Windows, no performance loss, nothing! :D :wink:
I actually got Warcraft III to run better in Wine than in XP on my old integrated graphics card. I havn't tried on my new one but since Im using a AMD64 optimized machine and everything is optimized only for 64 I have to do a bunch of stuff to get wine and flash to work so I havn't bothered yet.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:03 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:
Tsuroerusu wrote:
dann wrote:Wine should be in the debian repositories. But even so, wine is a beast all its own.
Couldn't agree more. I acknowledge that Wine has come a long way considering how proprietary the Windows APIs are, but I've actually never used it for anything serious, except for TransGaming fork, Cedega. Works very very well with a nice Geforce4 Ti-4200 and Warcraft III, no difference from playing the game in Windows, no performance loss, nothing! :D :wink:
I actually got Warcraft III to run better in Wine than in XP on my old integrated graphics card. I havn't tried on my new one but since Im using a AMD64 optimized machine and everything is optimized only for 64 I have to do a bunch of stuff to get wine and flash to work so I havn't bothered yet.
By optimized do you mean that you're a fan of the GCC compiling screen saver? :lol:

Just kidding dude :wink:

Anyway, Cedega really impresses me by being able to run Half-Life 2 8)
It's not like I play it, but it's such an intensive game.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:46 pm
by Shack
ill give http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/wine a try. Thats not the reposistory Wine says to use, but the one they say to use dont work :D

Im trying to get Steam to work un Wine. The version the comew with stable is old and doenst work with Wine.

I just did basic install of Debian. It must have just picked KDE. Ill install it through synaptic. Thanks for the quick answers.

Anyone got a tutorial for installing software not in the repository?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:45 pm
by Tsuroerusu
Steam is very easy to get working if you use Cedega, you can get it from transgaming.com as subscription which is about 5 bucks a month I think.
Cedega is not fully open source because it contains licensed DirectX technology so that a DirectX->OpenGL can be performed.

Say you install a Cedega Debian package: dpkg -i cedega.deb
The next thing to do is just run: cedega steam_installer.exe

I've always had problems trying to get Steam working under standard Wine.