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Microsoft idea ...Health Certificates for Computers WTF?

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:31 am
by LinuxMint-4
My Comment:
What they are saying is that sick computers should not get on the internet. While that sounds good. Note that this proposal is from Microsoft with "health certificates" as an idea to "prove" the computer is "worthy" to use the internet". I see a back door proposal to ban computers from the internet unless they are approved by Microsoft. So If one is running Linux, no anti-virus is normally needed and since it is not Windows ...how would a "health certificate" be issued to a Linux or Apple computer since it is not run by Microsoft? More importantly, would this proposal be a back door to registering computers on the internet? Or keeping non Microsoft computers off the internet? Read into this and make your own conclusions, I hope this idea is shot down before some idiot decides to make this into a proposal for law. I hope the EFF is on top of this.
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Sick PCs should be banned from the net says Microsoft
hands on laptop Botnets can contain millions of machines

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11483008


Virus-infected computers that pose a risk to other PCs should be blocked from the net, a senior researcher at software giant Microsoft suggests. The proposal is based on lessons from public health, said Scott Charney of the firm's Trustworthy Computing team. It is designed to tackle botnets - networks of infected computers under the control of cybercriminals. Putting machines in temporary quarantine would stop the spread of a virus and allow it to be cleaned.

His proposal, presented at the International Security Solutions Europe (ISSE) Conference in Berlin, Germany, is for all computers to have a "health certificate" to prove that it is uninfected before it connects to the net. "Although the conditions to be checked may change over time, current experience suggests that such health checks should ensure that software patches are applied, a firewall is installed and configured correctly, an antivirus program with current signatures is running, and the machine is not currently infected with known malware," he wrote in the accompanying paper.


If the health certificate indicates a problem the computer could be prompted to download a missing patch or update its anti-virus settings.

Microsoft said that to make its plan work it would need four steps, including defining a health computer, creating a trusted system for health certificates and finding a way for ISPs to process and act on them.

Relevant legal frameworks would also be needed, it said. But Mr Cluley questioned whether Microsoft was best placed to recommend such security measures. "Microsoft doesn't have a faultless record when it comes to security," he said."It has improved over the years, but every month they have to release a package of updates. "There may be some who would say that Microsoft shouldn't be on the internet until they get their own house in order."

Re: Microsoft idea ...Health Certificates for Computers WTF?

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:56 pm
by eddie
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What audacity MS has after being allegedly adjudicated a monopoly (how quickly people forget)(news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/microsoft/ntscpmcrsft12202cmp.pdf). That is a real slap in the face to the free community much less anyone who uses a computer. Sometimes I wonder if the Doj is not allegedly on the take. Boies was allegedly the lead government lawyer against MS till he seemed to be hypnotised with money to become a fiasco supporter. The DOJ has allegedly seemed to pussyfoot around MS since then. Wish I was an attorney. Ralph Nader, where are you?

Obviously. the truth of the matter is that MS allegely can not make a robust os and want everyone else to suffer for it. I still say the death of Gary Kildall was suspicious to say the least. Wonder what would have happened if he had led a full life. NO MS? I will almost bet that if the alleged media campaign to make RMS seem to look bad, he might be gone also (just one example among others: http://mono-nono.com/2009/09/11/miguel- ... slams-fsf/). I have caught much negative feedback for defending his thoughts on free software. Though he is opinionated, but I respect most of his thoughts as to free software. The movie "The Net" was so ahead of it's time. You probably will not see it on MSnbc for sure. Reports are now that MS is courting the ABC network community (http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php and http://www.variety.com/article/VR111802 ... Id=14&cs=1). So much for a free press in America. It is a shame that no one is up in arms about all of this. Guess they are allegedly too addicted to the media, drugs, or both.

The only solace I see is that according to the news, part of the MS portfolio was downgraded again recently (http://www.electronista.com/articles/10 ... ficulties/). Maybe there are some intelligent people who know what MS is really worth. In any event, we just fired Comcast aka comcrap from being our provider. This was not only for poor service but because they aligned themselves with MS.

Ms wants to quarantine botnets(http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/10/08/0 ... s?from=rss). What constitutes a botnet? Any ms competitor? I have seen a lot of virus protection software give false positives especially with linux files (could be easily manipulated). Ironically a lot of governmental agencies use real open source software including the president. It is important to remove botnets, but If MS wants use a botnet rouse to ban real open source on the net (remember the ooxml fiasco among others (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=172 ... 8d10e40e85 and http://blogs.computerworld.com/microsof ... nd_red_hat)), maybe we can only hope they will awake the sleeping giant again and MS might get the nuclear bomb of negative public opinion and government scrutiny.

There should be an amendment to the bill of rights about computer use. That is a whole another can of worms also. Contact your representatives now!!!

With the Stoned bootkit aka rootkit software (http://www.h-online.com/security/news/i ... 42721.html) aimed at disarming MS software starting to go around, it will be interesting to see what happens next. We have to be careful as linux and bsd are vulnerable also. My brother who use to work for NASA said that they use to encase critical computers in concrete. NO JOKE. Coming soon cabinets to lock up your computers just like you lock up your guns.
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In all my years dealing with computers (since the ibm360 model 40), only have MS based computers been the real cause of unsafe computing for me. I can not tell you how many viruses (including the original boot and ms word viruses), malware, and spyware, I have cleaned from ms machines as a technician. That being said, when linux first came out it was no way as secure as it is now. Fortunately it was locked down to a greater degree over the years. Happy and safe computing.