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Sweet, considering I'm installing linux on my dads machine today. Downloading it right now.Tsuroerusu wrote:KANOTIX 2005-04 was released only hours ago, but I guess Kano go it out before 2005 was over
I'm sure Pat's jumping up and down in joy already!
Announcement: http://kanotix.com/Article56.html
Nope not yet, it's in "experimental".Judland wrote:Is KDE 3.5 not part of Debian SID yet?
Well, that explains it. Thanks!Tsuroerusu wrote:Nope not yet, it's in "experimental".
No problem man, it doesn't surprise at all though, the Debian guys are like snails to add new stuff, compared to Mandriva, SUSE, Arch and Ubuntu.Judland wrote:Well, that explains it. Thanks!Tsuroerusu wrote:Nope not yet, it's in "experimental".
Some people prefer stability over the latest version number. Debian's testing process is far more rigorous, and time consuming than other distros.Tsuroerusu wrote:No problem man, it doesn't surprise at all though, the Debian guys are like snails to add new stuff, compared to Mandriva, SUSE, Arch and Ubuntu.Judland wrote:Well, that explains it. Thanks!Tsuroerusu wrote:Nope not yet, it's in "experimental".
Yeah, but you absoloutely can make a very stable distro without taking like 18 months or whatever between releases! Debian's release cycle is ridiculous IMO, once a year could be acceptable if they would provide updates to stuff like GNOME and KDE in a stable manner so people don't have to hang around Debian unstable and waiting for the system to brake.Wally Balljacker wrote:Some people prefer stability over the latest version number. Debian's testing process is far more rigorous, and time consuming than other distros.Tsuroerusu wrote:No problem man, it doesn't surprise at all though, the Debian guys are like snails to add new stuff, compared to Mandriva, SUSE, Arch and Ubuntu.Judland wrote: Well, that explains it. Thanks!
Debian stable isn't optimal for desktop use, no. It's made for server use. There's a reason why Debian is on 1.2 million web servers: it's rock solid, and it just works. Debian testing which I use on the desktop is great, because you get relatively up to date software (link), without being bleeding edge, and aren't subject to the breakage that running pure unstable has. I love using a distro that has 4 different release branches, because I can choose exactly how current I want to be. I don't know of any other distro that offers that kind of flexibility.Tsuroerusu wrote:Yeah, but you absoloutely can make a very stable distro without taking like 18 months or whatever between releases! Debian's release cycle is ridiculous IMO, once a year could be acceptable if they would provide updates to stuff like GNOME and KDE in a stable manner so people don't have to hang around Debian unstable and waiting for the system to brake.Wally Balljacker wrote:Some people prefer stability over the latest version number. Debian's testing process is far more rigorous, and time consuming than other distros.Tsuroerusu wrote: No problem man, it doesn't surprise at all though, the Debian guys are like snails to add new stuff, compared to Mandriva, SUSE, Arch and Ubuntu.
Of course, Debian is great for that, who needs KDE for servers.Wally Balljacker wrote:Debian stable isn't optimal for desktop use, no. It's made for server use. There's a reason why Debian is on 1.2 million web servers: it's rock solid, and it just works.
Flexibility you say? I think Gentoo has an edge there, but then again most of us don't like compiling all the timeWally Balljacker wrote:Debian testing which I use on the desktop is great, because you get relatively up to date software (link), without being bleeding edge, and aren't subject to the breakage that running pure unstable has. I love using a distro that has 4 different release branches, because I can choose exactly how current I want to be. I don't know of any other distro that offers that kind of flexibility.
I too like exploring the latest free open source software. That's why KANOTIX, and live CDs in general are great, because I can run them off the CD, and check out the newest applications without messing with my Debian installation.Judland wrote:Debian, as with all Linux distros., has its place. It does what it's designed to do. It also provides a choice, which is what Linux is all about.
Myself, I like exploring the new features and innovations on the desktop. Unfortunately, SID was just going through too many problems recently for my taste.
Hehe as Marcel Gagné said when he was on the show almost a year ago: "LiveCDs Rock People!"Wally Balljacker wrote:I too like exploring the latest free open source software. That's why KANOTIX, and live CDs in general are great, because I can run them off the CD, and check out the newest applications without messing with my Debian installation.