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The arch forums are full of people reporting issues with xorg7:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/

Apparently this version contains a major rewrite with loadable modules. This is causing a decent amount of breakage reports from people upgrading their systems. I believe Arch is the first distro to offer xorg 7. Avoid upgrading to xorg7 until this clears up a bit.

Patrick wrote:The arch forums are full of people reporting issues with xorg7:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/

Apparently this version contains a major rewrite with loadable modules. This is causing a decent amount of breakage reports from people upgrading their systems. I believe Arch is the first distro to offer xorg 7. Avoid upgrading to xorg7 until this clears up a bit.

Nope Gentoo was (I think). I have been running it for about a week (its been on Gentoo for a couple of months and I just decided to try it out). Its not *too* unstable but kopete crashes Xorg a bunch so I am temporarily using Gaim. I had to unmerge a few programs such as Wormux, Mozilla-bin, and Glest but not too many.

AFAICT most of the breakage is a result of xorg.conf needing updating, specifically the keyboard and mouse settings in many cases. Of course, there is also the issue of actually getting it installed in the first place - pacman wants to remove a ton of stuff from my box, and I've read several posts from people who let it run through all of that, reinstaled all of what was removed, and ended up with some fairly ugly breakage.

I'm still not even at the most recent kernel and udev because so many people were having trouble with that. I kind of wish the release team would give us a few weeks in between painful upgrades. Ah well, my box works just fine right now, so I'm not complaining.

Snarkout wrote:I'm still not even at the most recent kernel and udev because so many people were having trouble with that.

I upgraded both my Arch boxes to the latest kernels and udev last week without any issues. In fact both systems seem a little quicker especially when automounting media.

Thanks for the heads up!

Snarkout wrote:AFAICT most of the breakage is a result of xorg.conf needing updating, specifically the keyboard and mouse settings in many cases. Of course, there is also the issue of actually getting it installed in the first place - pacman wants to remove a ton of stuff from my box, and I've read several posts from people who let it run through all of that, reinstaled all of what was removed, and ended up with some fairly ugly breakage.

I didn't have to change my xorg.conf at all, maybe Im just lucky or Portage patches it accordingly.

CptnObvious999 wrote:

Patrick wrote:The arch forums are full of people reporting issues with xorg7:
http://bbs.archlinux.org/

Apparently this version contains a major rewrite with loadable modules. This is causing a decent amount of breakage reports from people upgrading their systems. I believe Arch is the first distro to offer xorg 7. Avoid upgrading to xorg7 until this clears up a bit.

Nope Gentoo was (I think). I have been running it for about a week (its been on Gentoo for a couple of months and I just decided to try it out).

Fedora was using the new Xorg back in November in Core 5 test 1. Technically that's not a release, though. I remember it took a couple weeks to settle down and get the bugs out.

Patrick wrote:

Snarkout wrote:I'm still not even at the most recent kernel and udev because so many people were having trouble with that.

I upgraded both my Arch boxes to the latest kernels and udev last week without any issues. In fact both systems seem a little quicker especially when automounting media.

I did an Arch install on my laptop and have yet to get automounting working. I upgraded to the latest packages, and enabled the hotplug daemon, but when I plug in my USB pen drive udev does nothing.

I know how to add it to /etc/fstab and allow mounting it as a user, but with a 2.6.15 kernel and udev, I shouldn't have to.

Any ideas?

Gomer_X wrote:I did an Arch install on my laptop and have yet to get automounting working. I upgraded to the latest packages, and enabled the hotplug daemon, but when I plug in my USB pen drive udev does nothing.

I know how to add it to /etc/fstab and allow mounting it as a user, but with a 2.6.15 kernel and udev, I shouldn't have to.

Any ideas?

All you need is HAL & DBUS. That's it. Make sure you add them to your daemon list in /etc/rc.conf

Also add the user "hal" to the "disk" group - I discovered this myself this weekend while working on a solution for my ipod. This, after I'd spend several hours on another weekend fscking around with udev rules and fstab entries, etc. However, for a thumb drive, all you need to do is have dbus and hal start at boot time.

Patrick wrote:

Gomer_X wrote: I did an Arch install on my laptop and have yet to get automounting working. I upgraded to the latest packages, and enabled the hotplug daemon, but when I plug in my USB pen drive udev does nothing.

I know how to add it to /etc/fstab and allow mounting it as a user, but with a 2.6.15 kernel and udev, I shouldn't have to.

Any ideas?

All you need is HAL & DBUS. That's it. Make sure you add them to your daemon list in /etc/rc.conf

Okie. I'll check when I get home. I didn't install X at all, so I may not have HAL and DBUS.

I'll really only use vim, apache, Perl, maybe MySQL and a text mode browser on the machine. I figured it would be worth trying to get Arch working rather than paring Fedora down to a minimal state for a 500Mhz machine. Haven't hit any roadblocks so far.

The command line options and functionality of pacman are surprisingly similar to rpm/yum, so I'm amazed how quickly I got used to it.

Aside from a few minor glitches I have not had a problem with xorg 7. XFCE4 was very slow to start and would not shut down. This was attributed to iceauth being moved. Xfce4 had it hard coded to /usr/X11R6/bin/iceauth and the new binary is in /usr/bin now. I created a symlink and all is running smoothly.

There are some issues with Gnome, though. I'm not sure whether this is X related or not. I, along with some other people get panel error messages when starting gnome.