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Kerry - The KDE Beagle Frontend! :D
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:06 pm
by Tsuroerusu
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1820
""The KDE desktop of SUSE Linux 10.1 (and the future enterprise products built on it) will contain a KDE frontend for Beagle called Kerry. For this Beagle has been split into non-GUI and GUI parts, some backends are now in sub-packages (Evolution, Firefox) and the libbeagle API has been improved in parts. Besides generic file indexing Beagle already contains backends written by Debajyoti Bera and others for KMail, Kopete, and Konqueror's web history cache.""
This is awesome!
I guess Novell didn't throw KDE out after all!
Finally I can use Beagle without a truck-load of GNOME dependencies.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:19 pm
by Tsuroerusu
Just ran into some more information on this:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1820
And a great "in-use" screenshot:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1818
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:56 pm
by CptnObvious999
I have it installed. Its pretty good however it doesn't seem to index a lot of formats but its definately a start.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:58 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:I have it installed. Its pretty good however it doesn't seem to index a lot of formats but its definately a start.
How fast is it? Is it buggy, and apart from not indexing that much stuff, how good is it?
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:29 pm
by CptnObvious999
Its fast. I was surprised I didn't have to wait for it to index a directory after I added it and when I searched for a file in that directory it came up. I havn't noticed any bugs yet.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:38 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:Its fast. I was surprised I didn't have to wait for it to index a directory after I added it and when I searched for a file in that directory it came up. I havn't noticed any bugs yet.
Nice man, sounds like the SUSE guys are doing some cool stuff, could you maybe make some screenshots for us to see?

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:04 pm
by CptnObvious999
Tsuroerusu wrote:CptnObvious999 wrote:Its fast. I was surprised I didn't have to wait for it to index a directory after I added it and when I searched for a file in that directory it came up. I havn't noticed any bugs yet.
Nice man, sounds like the SUSE guys are doing some cool stuff, could you maybe make some screenshots for us to see?

Yeah Novell has been doing good stuff lately. Here you go.


Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:52 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:Yeah Novell has been doing good stuff lately. Here you go.
Thanks a lot, by the way, watch out with your #2 screenshot, notice the last to files

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:28 pm
by CptnObvious999
Tsuroerusu wrote:CptnObvious999 wrote:Yeah Novell has been doing good stuff lately. Here you go.
Thanks a lot, by the way, watch out with your #2 screenshot, notice the last to files

what are you talking about those are completely legit files. I recorded those files with MythTV.
I do have one annoyance with it since it doesn't seem to use the kde font sizes so its really small on the description and relevance rating.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:34 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:what are you talking about those are completely legit files. I recorded those files with MythTV.
Of course, boy was I dumb there for a moment.
CptnObvious999 wrote:I do have one annoyance with it since it doesn't seem to use the kde font sizes so its really small on the description and relevance rating.
How could a Qt app not use the KDE font settings? I guess it has some preset font sizes or something, I bet ya it'll be fixed soon, by the way, did you see that Gentoo has just released their 2006.0 release?
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:28 pm
by CptnObvious999
Tsuroerusu wrote:CptnObvious999 wrote:I do have one annoyance with it since it doesn't seem to use the kde font sizes so its really small on the description and relevance rating.
How could a Qt app not use the KDE font settings? I guess it has some preset font sizes or something, I bet ya it'll be fixed soon, by the way, did you see that Gentoo has just released their 2006.0 release?
Yes I did. Updated KDE and GCC and a lot of package bumping but not too much. Although it might include a new graphical installer that they have been working on. Not sure though... Gentoo doesn't really do much different in new releases which is good for me so I don't have to reinstall it or whatever.

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:49 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:Yes I did. Updated KDE and GCC and a lot of package bumping but not too much. Although it might include a new graphical installer that they have been working on. Not sure though... Gentoo doesn't really do much different in new releases which is good for me so I don't have to reinstall it or whatever.

I wonder why they didn't include KDE 3.5.X, it's been out for a good while now....
I might actually give FreeBSD a whirl next month when they release 6.1, it will have Xen integrated so I can just run SUSE along side it

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:59 pm
by CptnObvious999
Tsuroerusu wrote:I wonder why they didn't include KDE 3.5.X, it's been out for a good while now....
KDE is a very large amount of code which means it is more likely to have more bugs than something smaller which is why 3.5 is still considered unstable plus I think they have a rule where it won't be submited into stable unless they don't get a bug report for a certain amount of time. When they say stable they don't want anything to break, if it does its a sin. Kinda like Debian Stable except less ancient

KDE does take the longest to get pushed to stable though because its so large and consists of so many packages that could be used for lots of different architectures and compile flags and use flags and other versions of packages etc.
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:02 pm
by Tsuroerusu
CptnObvious999 wrote:KDE is a very large amount of code which means it is more likely to have more bugs than something smaller which is why 3.5 is still considered unstable plus I think they have a rule where it won't be submited into stable unless they don't get a bug report for a certain amount of time. When they say stable they don't want anything to break, if it does its a sin. Kinda like Debian Stable except less ancient

KDE does take the longest to get pushed to stable though because its so large and consists of so many packages that could be used for lots of different architectures and compile flags and use flags and other versions of packages etc.
I see, question for ya, say you want KDE 3.5 but nothing else from the unstable branch, how do you tell portage to only pull KDE 3.5?
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:53 pm
by CptnObvious999
Tsuroerusu wrote:CptnObvious999 wrote:KDE is a very large amount of code which means it is more likely to have more bugs than something smaller which is why 3.5 is still considered unstable plus I think they have a rule where it won't be submited into stable unless they don't get a bug report for a certain amount of time. When they say stable they don't want anything to break, if it does its a sin. Kinda like Debian Stable except less ancient

KDE does take the longest to get pushed to stable though because its so large and consists of so many packages that could be used for lots of different architectures and compile flags and use flags and other versions of packages etc.
I see, question for ya, say you want KDE 3.5 but nothing else from the unstable branch, how do you tell portage to only pull KDE 3.5?
Well normally I would say
echo "=kde-base/kde-meta-3.5.1 ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
but kde has a lot of dependancies and you have to make all of them use unstable so I ran this script that will use unstable x86 for all of kde (or all the packages in kde-base):
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cd /usr/portage
for pack in kde-base/*
do echo $pack >> /etc/portage/package.keywords ~x86
done
you could run "
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde-meta" but when you run
emerge -uD world (world update) it would downgrade to stable KDE since it didn't know you wanted unstable. I think the porthole frontend takes care of all that mess for you though but I like commandline

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