My monitor just died on my computer at work and I'm working from a transient machine. As a result I'm forced to use IE. Man, what an utter piece of garbage! No tabbed browsing, no cool extensions, no Sage RSS reader!
UGGGHHHH!
Give me Firefox or give me death!
IE, what a piece of sh|t!!!
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I hear ya
my laptop hard drive died at work and I got the new "corporate image" and it is windows xp -
maaaaan - what a joke - it is nothing but windows 2000 with different themes. windows 2000 was my previous "corporate image".
it doesn't even go together sometimes - like the widgets are different colors sometimes. weird looking.
I compare it to my ubuntu gnome/kde desktops and xp isn't even in the same league as far as I am concerned. these desktops are much more elegant and at least have the same color widgets and everything looks like it goes together.
Even when I run kde in gnome or the gnome in kde they still look like they go together. my outlook looks just plain ugly in windows xp - it looks like it doesn't even belong.
it blows my mind that people actually pay 99/179 dollars for this junk. and then have to buy anti everything just so no one else takes over your computer.
In my personal opinion the corporate world has made windows brain dead. they are so worried about keeping their corporate contracts that they make their os so the ceo's can use it and it is about as good looking as a wart. I think they get their design specs right from ceo's.
As far as I am cocerned they can keep their ugly os. Last time microsoft got any of my money was back when 95 came out and then it was the companies money that I worked for and not mine - I bought 95 with a purchase order and that is the last time I buy anything from microsoft.
Same goes with apple - I bought an Imac for my daughter because some of her child games run on os9. Last time I buy anthing from them too.
Bs that they can't release secs or a driver for their old wifi card that they don't even make anymore. To me they are no better than microsft just like Pat says. But my daughter is outgrowing her os9 games and is using ubuntu a lot more and the older kids games - so it will probably be running ubuntu until it dies.
Anyway - got off track there - xp is the ugliest thing I have ever seen - glad I didn't pay money for it - it just pisses me off that my company does.
And yes IE drives me up a fricken wall - I just can't use it because I am so use to mozilla/firefox.
maaaaan - what a joke - it is nothing but windows 2000 with different themes. windows 2000 was my previous "corporate image".
it doesn't even go together sometimes - like the widgets are different colors sometimes. weird looking.
I compare it to my ubuntu gnome/kde desktops and xp isn't even in the same league as far as I am concerned. these desktops are much more elegant and at least have the same color widgets and everything looks like it goes together.
Even when I run kde in gnome or the gnome in kde they still look like they go together. my outlook looks just plain ugly in windows xp - it looks like it doesn't even belong.
it blows my mind that people actually pay 99/179 dollars for this junk. and then have to buy anti everything just so no one else takes over your computer.
In my personal opinion the corporate world has made windows brain dead. they are so worried about keeping their corporate contracts that they make their os so the ceo's can use it and it is about as good looking as a wart. I think they get their design specs right from ceo's.
As far as I am cocerned they can keep their ugly os. Last time microsoft got any of my money was back when 95 came out and then it was the companies money that I worked for and not mine - I bought 95 with a purchase order and that is the last time I buy anything from microsoft.
Same goes with apple - I bought an Imac for my daughter because some of her child games run on os9. Last time I buy anthing from them too.
Bs that they can't release secs or a driver for their old wifi card that they don't even make anymore. To me they are no better than microsft just like Pat says. But my daughter is outgrowing her os9 games and is using ubuntu a lot more and the older kids games - so it will probably be running ubuntu until it dies.
Anyway - got off track there - xp is the ugliest thing I have ever seen - glad I didn't pay money for it - it just pisses me off that my company does.
And yes IE drives me up a fricken wall - I just can't use it because I am so use to mozilla/firefox.
Re: IE, what a piece of sh|t!!!
I just updated my web site. I ripped out all the tables and did all the formatting and presentation markup in my stylesheet. The code is simpler to read and maintain, much cleaner, standards compliant and it looks just as good or better. Not only is it up to date, but it even works in text-only browsers.Patrick wrote:My monitor just died on my computer at work and I'm working from a transient machine. As a result I'm forced to use IE. Man, what an utter piece of garbage! No tabbed browsing, no cool extensions, no Sage RSS reader!
UGGGHHHH!
Give me Firefox or give me death!
So I get to work and pull up the page to see what it looks like in IE. Guess what? It looks like garbage. Microsoft CSS support is horrible so my layout is totally screwed up. I made some changes to hack around IE bugs, but who wnats to do that?
Microsoft doesn't support standards because they just don't care. Their customers by and large don't know what they're missing, so they don't complain. What's even worse is it looks like IE 7 won't support CSS either. Microsoft says there's "no demand" for CSS support, a standard that's been around for more than 5 years.
I just write HTML and CSS. Resorting to javascript because IE is broken is overkill (in my opinion). It's possible to write CSS that IE will render (stay away from px and use em instead, for example), but I don't go out of my way to support IE's flaws. Of course I do pretty simple stuff and am not much on eye candy.Mortuis wrote:If you only need to make a few hacks, I think you could write javascript that would detect IE and then modify the style. It's something I want to try at work since I have to support IE and Firefox, but I haven't had the time.
To be fair, I just got done with a huge project and IE surprised me. I was rewriting a large document (~300k), removing 900 font tags and replacing them with CSS styles. I found that IE (on Windows) was much faster than Firefox (on Linux). Firefox would take minutes to render the page when I refreshed, but IE took about 10 seconds. Of course with 900 open <font> tags I imagine Firefox was trying to render it correctly while IE probably just didn't care. The closer I got to completing the project (less broken tags), the faster Firefox got, but IE didn't change much.