Why some companies can't switch to open source.

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Why some companies can't switch to open source.

Post by bosshoff » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:23 am

Hey guys,

I was just listening to your June 20-something broadcast on my MP3 player this morning before work and caught the segment where you asked people to tell you why companies are hesitant to move to the Linux platform. I have a pretty specific example.

I had an internship with a company that used windows exclusively. Indeed, almost 80% of my time the first two months was spent troubleshooting windoze boxes; I was actually supposed to be programming, but they figured "hey, free labor!" (yes, I worked for free, as I was starving for "experience"). Anyway, there were two main reasons why they weren't even considering linux:

First, the "technical lead" didn't know didley about linux (and later I found out that he didn't know didley about keeping his job as a windoze admin either :shock: )

Second, and the larger point: the company was in the process of integrating a new Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) system into their business. This was a program written entirely for windoze and costed a whole hell of a lot of money. Now, not to get off on a rant, but this system was one big joke. It costed like 30,000 and didn't even use a real database!!! I mean, it used T/SQL but it wasn't built on a tested database, it was just their pet project POS database. What's funny is that a solution using MSSQL costed like three times as much.

Now, this second reason is, I think, the most popular rationale, but only alludes to the company's incredible lack of foresight. For example, there are a bunch of reports that this program generates, and for some reason my company was required to buy a program called "automate" to run them on a scheduled basis. This program is a hoot, seriously, you should check it out. It exacerbates the horrible mess that is the windoze O$. One actually has to go out and buy a tool that basically controls GUIs automatically because the programs were so poorly designed that there is no (visible) command-line interface. So, if I wanted to print something in a browser via automate, for example, the macro would look like this:

1) Open browser
2) go to address bar
3) paste address
4) hit "go"
5) go to file -> print
6) hit "print"

Instead of "link http://somepage | lpr"

LOL

Anyway, if you've gotten this far in my rant, I praise your ability to cope with my unplanned mess of writing :D

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Post by CptnObvious999 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:21 am

yeah system administration is much harder on windoze. My school has one and has to share it between 3 different schools cause they keep cutting school budgets but I make a website for the school and it took him till winter from the beginning of the year to upload it. It still said 'Have a great summer!' till Winter! If we ran Linux he'd be able to upload it in an hour. meh, glad im not you :wink:

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Post by bosshoff » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:55 am

Oh no, I don't work there anymore, thank god. Now I work for a college department that is creating innovative software using Linux, PHP, and Oracle, which is soon to be replaced with Postgres. Needless to say I am going to do my best to make sure I keep this job. Working in Linux is so very much better.

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Post by CptnObvious999 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:05 pm

oh cool. 8)

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Post by learnix » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:05 pm

There was a story in Linux Mag basically about this subject. Why a company would find it hard to move to Linux. It has some good points in it that I never thought about.

A Mile in IT's Shoes
http://www.linux-mag.com/2005-04/shutdown_01.html
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Post by bosshoff » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:21 am

Yeah, I think that guy has a couple good points, but he seems to be talking quite a bit about using Linux to emulate windows, as opposed to just using linux with actual standards-based formats. Is it really the fault of Linux that M$ has changed Office formats more often than I change my underwear (which, I assure you, is often :wink:) ? I mean, how about this: open up M$ Office and try to do a File->Export to PDF... oh wait, that's not possible.

Okay, yes, there needs to be interoperability between windows users and linux users, but why does this communication have to be through a proprietary medium? I mean, what is a powerpoint presentation if it isn't just an easy way to make a linear website, save all the stupid animations any professional shouldn't be using anyway?

Perlow's last point, concerning Linux integration with Active Directory, truthfully almost made me piss myself laughing. Too hard to integrate Active Directory with Linux? How about setting up that POS system in the first place? Christ, I've seen some of the books on the subject, and they can easily serve a dual purpose as a bludgeoning instrument which could knock someone senseless in one pass!

Yes, there are problems with Linux apps, I'll admit it. However, whereas with Windows all you can do is piss and moan, at least with open source you can actually get off your ass and fix things you don't like.

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