Gutsy gibbon

Wally Balljacker · Post by **Wally Balljacker** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:04 pm

Snarkout wrote:
davijordan wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote: Yeah, they have always supported PPC, and the PS3 (which is ppc64 arch) has been supported since Feisty AFAIK.
Last I heard they planned it's demise. and it is not on the beaten path to the web page it seems.
Yeah, I thought they'd bagged PPC support a while ago. How's yellowdog these days?

No, PPC has been supported ever since Warty. They just don't offer paid commerical support anymore, which really makes it no different than any other community run distro like Debian or Gentoo.

spotslayer · Post by **spotslayer** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:20 pm

spotslayer wrote:I just finished doing the upgrade from Kubuntu fiesty to gutsy on my lenovo laptop. It went pretty smooth. I disabled all third party repositories and pretty much used all of the ubuntu repositories. I used the upgrade manager button that showed up on the top of adept. The upgrade took about an hour and twenty minutes. My laptop is fairly new and has 2g of ram. I did notice that >1.7g of ram and about 225m of swap was being used during the upgrade. The processors were being pegged at between 95% and 99%.

I was apprehensive when it came time for the reboot. When that happened everything came back as it left with two exceptions. One being when I am ready to shut down I only get a log out button and have to go to the KDM splash screen to reboot or shutdown. Two being my power management configuration is gone. So to resolve these two I guess I will have to crawl around the forums. If any of yooze guys have the solution to these two issues I would be glad to hear them.

David

Solved the problem with missing button at logout. I had install xserver-xgl at one time so I could run beryl. Didn't need it any longer. Found this in the kubuntu forum.

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spotslayer · Post by **spotslayer** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:16 pm

Snarkout wrote:Update on dolphin - I've discovered how to turn off the right side "information" panel, and it's much nicer now.

How did you do it?

spotslayer · Post by **spotslayer** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:24 pm

spotslayer wrote:
Snarkout wrote:Update on dolphin - I've discovered how to turn off the right side "information" panel, and it's much nicer now.
How did you do it?

Never mind. F8 and F9 toggle the panels off and on.

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snarkout · Post by **snarkout** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:39 am

Wally Balljacker wrote:No, PPC has been supported ever since Warty. They just don't offer paid commerical support anymore, which really makes it no different than any other community run distro like Debian or Gentoo.

Well, that's good to know - xubuntu ran pretty damn well on older PPC stuff.

greggh · Post by **greggh** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:01 pm

I just set up an old duron 750 box (integrated everything on MB) I had lying around to give to a neighbor who needs to learn some computer stuff for a new job. He's a total computer newb and a little strapped for cash so I thought I would recycle an old PC for him and save him the $300-$400 he would otherwise give to Dell. Anyway, first I attempted to put Ubuntu on it and the install errored out...

http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-List ... 02085.html

Apparently this particular install error is not all that uncommon and I could not find a fix...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bu ... tnG=Search

Then I tried PCLinuxOS and that hung half way through the install with a blank screen.

Then I tried Debian Etch and it installed like a charm, just had to make one edit in xorg.conf to get the monitor refresh rate right. I'm starting to really like pure Debian.

davijordan · Post by **davijordan** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:00 pm

I had a problem with the new cd also. I installed feisty and upgraded. I am in the process of upgrading my edubuntu blue g3 tower, Even just getting the feisty up to date made the machine much more responsive. it just came back up. It has issues. this is the first time i used the graphical updater. I think I am going back to command line update only.Time to install kde.

Post by **Patrick** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:04 pm

Tried doing a clean install on the laptop. Not good:
http://pdavila.homelinux.org:8080/blog/?p=248

snarkout · Post by **snarkout** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:08 pm

Whoa! You're going to set hellonorman off with that kind of flagrant distro-hopping!

snarkout · Post by **snarkout** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:14 pm

On a serious note, I loved arch on my lappy, but I'm running kubuntu on it so I have an idea of what issues my wife might face on her lappy, and can find fixes for them before she has to deal with breakage. One suggestion I have is to find a kernel config that works well for you and save that kernel with a specialized name so you have more of a fallback kernel than current-with-all-modules-enabled. Arch booted so damn fast on my lappy that I never used hibernate - it took twice as long to un-hibernate than it did to boot. I did have some weird issues with pcmcia, but they seemed to be kernel version related more than arch-specific.

mowestusa · Post by **mowestusa** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:54 pm

Patrick wrote:Tried doing a clean install on the laptop. Not good:
http://pdavila.homelinux.org:8080/blog/?p=248

Hey, Pat, I read your blog. I'm bummed you had such a difficult time with Foresight. I have put it on the family computer and love it because of the conary features you mentioned.

I'm surprised by the IRC lack of responses, but you were trying to do much higher level stuff like compile a kernel and things than I do. I know that IRC responses are really good during working hours because the rpath devs who work with Foresight are usually on and helpful.

There are issues with PackageKit, but it is alpha level software. However, I have it working after the last conary updateall. I believe I might have rebooted or restarted x and PackageKit came to life. However, it is limited too.

The number of packages is low, however, it is a little misleading. You can install from any of the rpath repos, and there are tons of repos where packages have been compiled, but they are not in the Foresight repos or the main rpath repos. Audio programs can only be found in other repos. I was assured that installing from one of those repos is usually just fine in the IRC. KDE is really lacking so if you are looking for that you won't find all that you are looking for or at least not the latest.

The other issues, like the wifi drivers need a bug report because that is an issue that needs to be addressed.

I'm interested to hear your experiences with Arch. I'm still wondering if I should install Foresight on my main work desktop or go with Fedora 8, since I'm running Fedora 7 on here and like it a lot. I'm going to try to work with Foresight a bit longer on the home desktop. I'm also interested to hear what Ken says next week too. Have fun with Arch.

Post by **Patrick** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:04 pm

mowestusa wrote:Hey, Pat, I read your blog. I'm bummed you had such a difficult time with Foresight. I have put it on the family computer and love it because of the conary features you mentioned.

I didn't hate it all. Conary is fantastic. I'd like to see where these guys are in 12-18 months.

mowestusa wrote: There are issues with PackageKit, but it is alpha level software. However, I have it working after the last conary updateall. I believe I might have rebooted or restarted x and PackageKit came to life. However, it is limited too.

I couldn't get anything to install with PackageKit.

mowestusa wrote: The number of packages is low, however, it is a little misleading. You can install from any of the rpath repos, and there are tons of repos where packages have been compiled, but they are not in the Foresight repos or the main rpath repos. Audio programs can only be found in other repos. I was assured that installing from one of those repos is usually just fine in the IRC.

They definitely need to advertise the secondary repos. I found no documentation on the wiki regarding this. The distro is really in it's early stages. I'm sure it will mature nicely as time goes by.

davijordan · Post by **davijordan** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:12 pm

Anyone done a network install of ubuntu on an intel box?

Post by **Patrick** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:23 am

I upgraded Kubuntu on my AMD64 workstation. This time around it was flawless. It it me or does it seem Ubuntu ups the minimum hardware requirements with each release? I guess that's the natural progression but why can distros like Debian, Gentoo and Arch install on anything while Ubuntu can't? One release cycle shouldn't make much of a difference.

Wally Balljacker · Post by **Wally Balljacker** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:00 pm

I just did an Ubuntu AMD64 install on my brand new Athlon 64 X2 5600+ system, and it ROCKS! Everything was set up beautifully out of the box. It had no trouble installing my nVidia graphics driver, and Compiz started working right off the bat. It even set up Flash 9 for me automatically inside a completely 64-bit OS. Fantastic work Ubuntu!

By the way, this machine came pre-installed with Vista, which took about 2 minutes to boot up. Ubuntu boots up in 10 seconds.