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Well, Ximian was very good at understanding open source and free software, I guess Novell are getting too impatient to beat Red Hat with a stick or something, I really havn't heard of large deployments of Novell's Linux products, which includes SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 9 which I find surperior to Red Hat Enterprise AS 4.0. Novell might be looking at Red Hat and just trying to learn a little, but maybe they need to learn from the guys they have internally, SUSE didn't become so big if they didn't do things right.Patrick wrote:You have to wonder what's going on to make the founder want to leave the company he started and built up. The obvious answer is that the Ximian/Gnome people are the ones who have influence with the Novell executives. They're standardizing on Gnome as the desktop. I'm curious how many KDE developers are getting their walking papers? It's pretty sad, especially in Europe where Suse is the #1 linux distro. Where do they go now? We're talking to the Novell people in a few weeks. Should be interesting.
Yeah, you took the words out of my mouth man, why is it that Red Hat seems to be the only "stable" company these days? I don't remember them having major layoffs for a long time.Snarkout wrote:This really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's too bad, too -- I was planning on getting a cert from one of the big linux houses over the next year or so -- I guess it's RedHat for the win.
Indeed, and that was what I was reffering to, by "stable" I meant that their economics don't go up and down suddenly and stuff like that in general.Patrick wrote:RedHat is actually a profitable company.Tsuroerusu wrote:Yeah, you took the words out of my mouth man, why is it that Red Hat seems to be the only "stable" company these days? I don't remember them having major layoffs for a long time.
My feelings exactly. If you sell out, you give someone else control. It's too bad he can't find a place in the company where he's happy, but someone like that can easily find another place where he can contribute.Judland wrote:Probably shouldn't have caved in and sold to Novell.
Into their hands, he played.
Let's hope those rumors are correct, I think trashing KDE would be like throwing years of SUSE's work right out the window!Patrick wrote:Novell now backpedaling? This article (in German) says they will offer both desktops:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66011
Had a creative streak...Gomer_X wrote: Hopefully he won't do like the guy from Gentoo and go work for Microsoft.
I wonder if it has anything to do with RedHat staying true to it convictions of open source and just adding value added services on top of that.Yeah, you took the words out of my mouth man, why is it that Red Hat seems to be the only "stable" company these days? I don't remember them having major layoffs for a long time.
I agree with you, and that's why I'm against Novell completely dumping KDE, because then there's only GNOME, and I don't want them to dump GNOME either because then you only have KDE, GNOME has a number of cool apps that I use (Gaim, Totem, Grip...) so SUSE with only KDE wouldn't exactly fit my needs either.jsusanka wrote:I personally think that the world could live with both desktops. Why do we always have to chose or why does there always have to be a winner.
