Arrrg! GTK Pod is a piece of junk

Hey drop us a line about the show. Feel free to ask questions, provide feedback and criticism, or just ramble on about anything your little heart desires.

Moderators: snarkout, Patrick, dann

User avatar
Wally Balljacker
Posts: 1227
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:32 am
Location: University of Massachusetts - Lowell
Contact:

Arrrg! GTK Pod is a piece of junk

Post by Wally Balljacker » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:03 pm

I'm temped to just chuck my iPod against the wall, and buy another MP3 player. Linux is my only operating system, and trying to manage my iPod with GTK Pod is a total pain in the ass. For one, Half the time I wanna add some new files to my iPod, GTK Pod freezes up on me, and I have to kill it. I have to add one file at a time, and sync after every file I add, or it won't respond. I can't plug my iPod into my Firewire port more than once every couple of days, otherwise, it just charges in sleep mode, and refuses to be recognized as a storage device. Why can't Apple just give us iTunes, so I don't have to deal with this crap? Maybe I'll attemp to put iPodlinux on it.

User avatar
Patrick
Site Admin
Posts: 2519
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:38 am
Location: Easton, PA
Contact:

Post by Patrick » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:50 pm

Dude I use sharpmusique when I rarely buy music from Itunes. DRM removed courtesy of DVD Jon & Co:
http://www.nanocrew.net/software/sharpmusique/

Coded up a script to convert it to an ogg after downloading it.

The Iaudio5 I have is going for $89 at newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6855603817

The 1 & 2 gig models are obviously more.

They mount as a usb thumbdrive. Drag and drop. Nice & simple.

User avatar
CptnObvious999
Posts: 798
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:54 pm
Location: Maryland
Contact:

Post by CptnObvious999 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:26 pm

Patrick I think he's talking about syncing music and I don't think Sharpmusique does that. I think Amarok might sync, not sure though.

User avatar
Patrick
Site Admin
Posts: 2519
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:38 am
Location: Easton, PA
Contact:

Post by Patrick » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:30 pm

CptnObvious999 wrote:Patrick I think he's talking about syncing music and I don't think Sharpmusique does that. I think Amarok might sync, not sure though.
I was offerning a fall back plan if he does throw his Ipod against the wall! ;)

User avatar
CptnObvious999
Posts: 798
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:54 pm
Location: Maryland
Contact:

Post by CptnObvious999 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:31 pm

Patrick wrote:
CptnObvious999 wrote:Patrick I think he's talking about syncing music and I don't think Sharpmusique does that. I think Amarok might sync, not sure though.
I was offerning a fall back plan if he does throw his Ipod against the wall! ;)
oh lol right. I can't wait till xmas so I can use my new iAudio X5L 8)

User avatar
Wally Balljacker
Posts: 1227
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:32 am
Location: University of Massachusetts - Lowell
Contact:

Post by Wally Balljacker » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:04 pm

Patrick wrote:Dude I use sharpmusique when I rarely buy music from Itunes. DRM removed courtesy of DVD Jon & Co:
http://www.nanocrew.net/software/sharpmusique/

Coded up a script to convert it to an ogg after downloading it.

The Iaudio5 I have is going for $89 at newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6855603817

The 1 & 2 gig models are obviously more.

They mount as a usb thumbdrive. Drag and drop. Nice & simple.
Do you know what the minimum bitrate for MP3, and Oggs are for that iAudio?

User avatar
Patrick
Site Admin
Posts: 2519
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:38 am
Location: Easton, PA
Contact:

Post by Patrick » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:16 pm

Wally Balljacker wrote:Do you know what the minimum bitrate for MP3, and Oggs are for that iAudio?
From the manufacturer website:
MPEG 1/2/2.5 layer 3 (8Kbps ~ 320Kbps) (8kHz ~ 48kHz) and VBR
All ranges of WMA7 WMA (20Kbps ~ 192Kbps) (8kHz ~ 48kHz)
WMA9 CBR(5Kbps Mono ~ 320Kbps Stereo)
VBR(48Kbps ~ 256Kbps)
* WMA9 Pro, Lossless and Voice Codec not supported.
OGG (Currently support up to Q10)
WAV (Up to 48Khz Stereo)

It plays our ogg files at 32kbps without any issues.

User avatar
CptnObvious999
Posts: 798
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:54 pm
Location: Maryland
Contact:

Post by CptnObvious999 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:22 pm

Patrick wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote:Do you know what the minimum bitrate for MP3, and Oggs are for that iAudio?
From the manufacturer website:
MPEG 1/2/2.5 layer 3 (8Kbps ~ 320Kbps) (8kHz ~ 48kHz) and VBR
All ranges of WMA7 WMA (20Kbps ~ 192Kbps) (8kHz ~ 48kHz)
WMA9 CBR(5Kbps Mono ~ 320Kbps Stereo)
VBR(48Kbps ~ 256Kbps)
* WMA9 Pro, Lossless and Voice Codec not supported.
OGG (Currently support up to Q10)
WAV (Up to 48Khz Stereo)

It plays our ogg files at 32kbps without any issues.
Yeah it plays basically any OGG file perfectly and with some of eq settings and other features it sounds better than on my computer 8)

User avatar
Wally Balljacker
Posts: 1227
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:32 am
Location: University of Massachusetts - Lowell
Contact:

Post by Wally Balljacker » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:25 pm

Patrick wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote:Do you know what the minimum bitrate for MP3, and Oggs are for that iAudio?
It plays our ogg files at 32kbps without any issues.
That's good to know. It would be nice to not have to download the MP3 just for use on my iPod. On a related note, I noticed the torrent of episode 114 has a raw MP3 in it. I'm assuming thats the full episode with the Ogg extras. Is that something we'll get from now on, only for the BitTorrent users?

User avatar
Patrick
Site Admin
Posts: 2519
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:38 am
Location: Easton, PA
Contact:

Post by Patrick » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:44 pm

Wally Balljacker wrote:I'm assuming thats the full episode with the Ogg extras. Is that something we'll get from now on, only for the BitTorrent users?
Good question. We'll have to talk to talk to the torrent man, Linc
I like the idea of the torrent. It'd be great if we could get 20-30 people always leaving the torrent up for the latest show.

User avatar
dann
Site Admin
Posts: 1132
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:55 pm
Location: Hampton, Va, USA
Contact:

Post by dann » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:36 pm

I don't have the same problems you have with gtkpod, in fact I find it quite useful. The problem I do have is that once I mount the device under linux, there is a greater chance that the next time it will not mount and I have to mount it in OS X before it is useable in Linux again.

I think this is because my iPod is over a year old and hitting the wall fast.

User avatar
CptnObvious999
Posts: 798
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:54 pm
Location: Maryland
Contact:

Post by CptnObvious999 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:46 pm

Amarok should sync it perfectly. Also might want to get the newed version of hal.

User avatar
Linc
Site Admin
Posts: 345
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:54 pm
Contact:

Post by Linc » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:48 pm

Patrick wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote:I'm assuming thats the full episode with the Ogg extras. Is that something we'll get from now on, only for the BitTorrent users?
Good question. We'll have to talk to talk to the torrent man, Linc
I like the idea of the torrent. It'd be great if we could get 20-30 people always leaving the torrent up for the latest show.
Not sure what is in that to be honest. Dann put the media files up there, I put up the chatlog and then made a bittorrent out of everything with the epi# that was available :-)
-Linc Fessenden

In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...

User avatar
Patrick
Site Admin
Posts: 2519
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:38 am
Location: Easton, PA
Contact:

Post by Patrick » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:42 pm

Linc wrote:Not sure what is in that to be honest. Dann put the media files up there, I put up the chatlog and then made a bittorrent out of everything with the epi# that was available :-)
You created the torrent file. You're the torrent man! Seriously though I think we should continue to do the torrent thing. If we can get our regular mirrors plus a few other people to leave their torrent client running all week I think we can make this a regular thing.

User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Post by snarkout » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:17 pm

I'll be happy to host some of those files for a while -- I have a T1, but I'm not sure how long I'm going to be in my current "situation." I'd imagine a few more months at least -- then my next Little Guy is arriving, so all bets are off.
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

Post Reply