RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use

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RIAA Says Ripping CDs to Your iPod is NOT Fair Use

Post by Tsuroerusu » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:04 pm

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004409.php

This is just absurd, when does these bastards shut the f*** up!!! :evil: :evil:
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Post by Wally Balljacker » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:57 pm

For us Linux users we don't have any other choice, unless we use illegal programs like Pymusiq for iTunes, or buy creative commons music from Magantune. Poo on the RIAA.

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Post by CptnObvious999 » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:59 pm

It says iPods but not any other DAP's is this iPod specific? Maybe that would make people buy other MP3 players, but I doubt it. :roll:

Anyway the way the RIAA is abusing their power I would consider it Unfair Use of power ;-)

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Post by Tsuroerusu » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:08 pm

CptnObvious999 wrote:Anyway the way the RIAA is abusing their power I would consider it Unfair Use of power ;-)
Yeah no kidding! I gurantee you that if Hillary Clinton ever becomes president of the USA, the RIAA and MPAA will pay Mel Gibson to "entertain" her when Bill is out doing Monica again! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by dann » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:21 pm

"Nor does the fact that permission to make a copy in particular circumstances is often or even routinely granted, necessarily establish that the copying is a fair use when the copyright owner withholds that authorization. In this regard, the statement attributed to counsel for copyright owners in the MGM v. Grokster case is simply a statement about authorization, not about fair use."
What does this mean? While I like the EFF and support what they do and stand for, this quote seems to be taken out of some context that would make the quote more meaningful.

Does this mean:
Copying is not necessarily fair use when the copyright owner withholds that authorization even when permission to make a copy in particular circumstances is often or even routinely granted.
Which is redundant because it basically says: "There is no fair use copy if the owner strictly withholds fair use copy even if fair use copy is usually granted by others." Now who makes this decision? The RIAA, the artist, any other middlemen? What if the artist says yes but RIAA no? Or vice versa?

It seems there was more to this message but the first few sentences were cut off. Like to read the full statement or article.

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Post by Wally Balljacker » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:24 pm

Shamelessly stolen off of Boing Boing:

For those who may not remember, here's what Don Verrilli said to the Supreme Court last year:

"The record companies, my clients, have said, for some time now, and it's been on their website for some time now, that it's perfectly lawful to take a CD that you've purchased, upload it onto your computer, put it onto your iPod."

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