What's the best BSD for a Mac mini?

Hey drop us a line about the show. Feel free to ask questions, provide feedback and criticism, or just ramble on about anything your little heart desires.

Moderators: snarkout, Patrick, dann

Post Reply
Tsuroerusu
Posts: 2551
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:51 am
Location: Silkeborg, Denmark
Contact:

What's the best BSD for a Mac mini?

Post by Tsuroerusu » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:14 am

OK here's the deal, I might be very close to winning a deal on a used PowerPC Mac mini, for less than half the price of a new one, and I wanna throw one of the BSDs on there, and if it doesn't work right, I can always throw GNU/Linux on there, but I wanna try out a BSD first, but is anyone in here aware of which of the three big BSDs have the best PPC support? I favor FreeBSD and OpenBSD, but I'm open to give NetBSD a whirl if it has better support for the hardware.
Image
Image

"Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love. This is the eternal rule."
- Siddhattha Gotama (Buddha), founder of Buddhism.

thetza
Posts: 146
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:25 pm

Post by thetza » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:01 am

openbsd. when I installed freebsd on my g4 tower, half the device didn't work, and netbsd was a pain to install. openbsd definitely.

User avatar
Linc
Site Admin
Posts: 345
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:54 pm
Contact:

Re: What's the best BSD for a Mac mini?

Post by Linc » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:16 am

Tsuroerusu wrote:OK here's the deal, I might be very close to winning a deal on a used PowerPC Mac mini, for less than half the price of a new one, and I wanna throw one of the BSDs on there, and if it doesn't work right, I can always throw GNU/Linux on there, but I wanna try out a BSD first, but is anyone in here aware of which of the three big BSDs have the best PPC support? I favor FreeBSD and OpenBSD, but I'm open to give NetBSD a whirl if it has better support for the hardware.
NetBSD has the best platform support hands down. In fact, any PPC support the other BSD's have come from borrowed code of NetBSD.
-Linc Fessenden

In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...

User avatar
dann
Site Admin
Posts: 1132
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:55 pm
Location: Hampton, Va, USA
Contact:

Post by dann » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:47 am

OS X. It's already on there.

I hear Linc praising all the time how OS X is more BSD than BSD!

Tsuroerusu
Posts: 2551
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:51 am
Location: Silkeborg, Denmark
Contact:

Post by Tsuroerusu » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:31 pm

Linc wrote:NetBSD has the best platform support hands down. In fact, any PPC support the other BSD's have come from borrowed code of NetBSD.
Well, as I said I'm open to try NetBSD, so I think it's likely that I will do that :wink:

dann wrote:OS X. It's already on there.

I hear Linc praising all the time how OS X is more BSD than BSD!
LOL, I don't wanna use OS X, I don't wanna use a proprietary operating system! :wink:
And also, just to step into Linc's role of "Mr. Lightweight desktop" (Thanks to Pat. for that title), OS X is a resource hog beyond morality.

By the way, believe me, I'm not only gonna throw OS X off the machine, I'm gonna take my time to torture it nicely! :twisted:
For example: Put a LiveCD Linux in and delete system files, and at the same time corrupt the file system and a little stuff like that, and then finally I'm gonna give it a zero fill. :wink: :twisted:
Image
Image

"Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love. This is the eternal rule."
- Siddhattha Gotama (Buddha), founder of Buddhism.

User avatar
Gomer_X
Posts: 901
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:31 pm
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
Contact:

Post by Gomer_X » Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:39 am

dann wrote:OS X. It's already on there.

I hear Linc praising all the time how OS X is more BSD than BSD!
I was gonna say that. I'm glad you beat me to it. :D

Tsuroerusu
Posts: 2551
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:51 am
Location: Silkeborg, Denmark
Contact:

Post by Tsuroerusu » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:10 pm

OK, I just got a deal on a Mac mini, oh man time to whip out the torture tools and kill OS X nice and slowly! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Are any of you guys aware of where the kernel files are located in OS X? And can I use the dd command to say write zeros to the middle of the drive or whatever sector I could specify? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Image
Image

"Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love. This is the eternal rule."
- Siddhattha Gotama (Buddha), founder of Buddhism.

thetza
Posts: 146
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:25 pm

Post by thetza » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:54 am

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 180&q=macs
oh, wait, you wanted to be able to use the hardware afterwards? hmmm....

User avatar
Wally Balljacker
Posts: 1227
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:32 am
Location: University of Massachusetts - Lowell
Contact:

Post by Wally Balljacker » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:33 pm

I like OS X, myself. Besides, BSD and Linux on PPC is pretty far behind x86 in terms of multimedia/hardware support.

Tsuroerusu
Posts: 2551
Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:51 am
Location: Silkeborg, Denmark
Contact:

Post by Tsuroerusu » Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:59 am

Wally Balljacker wrote:I like OS X, myself. Besides, BSD and Linux on PPC is pretty far behind x86 in terms of multimedia/hardware support.
Well, that's not a problem, because that's not what I'm going to be using this sucker for. I'm not buying it because of the PPC chip, I'm buying it because of the size, and power usage. I'm just gonna have it sitting in the corner doing BitTorrent and stuff like that, if I am ever to buy a new desktop machine for myself, I'd go with Opteron, those are even good for gaming if I wanted to play Quake 4 for instace. On some Opteron-based workstation motherboards, you get a hell of a lot of features, IDE, SATA, SCSI.... and even NVIDIA's SLi, and all kinds of great stuff like PCI-X for massive arrays of drives, and room for like 16 GB of RAM..... I don't see why PPC would be so much better than an Opteron in this case, especially with the independant benchmarks, and real world performance that I'm hearing about on Apple's new Intel machines, I would say that Intel is beating the current PPC stuff.
Image
Image

"Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love. This is the eternal rule."
- Siddhattha Gotama (Buddha), founder of Buddhism.

Post Reply