laptops and more

[jsusanka]

Just wanted to share - saw this link on groklaw.

good to see!!


http://linux.dell.com/

[Patrick]

I've seen that site before. It's mostly a community driven web site. At least Dell has the decency to do this if even if they don't want to "officially" support linux. On a side note, I just read that linux accounts for 25% of Dell's enterprise level sales:
http://news.com.com/For+Dell%2C+industr ... 81793.html

[jsusanka]

just listened to 142 -

with my hometown being saint louis I have to defend budweiser - it's not that bad. a little pisswater every now and then doesn't hurt anybody.

One thing about about the package management -

I think yes linux does need a universal patch/package management system.

I have really been giving the zen package management updater the old college try on suse 10.1 and I have given up. It just doesn't work and novell would be smart (no pun intended) to abandon it now and go with smart. I use smart strictly now on my amd64 machine and it is fast and is very easy to use. kudos to smart!!
other than that suse 10.1 is rock solid and is the usual high quality we come to expect from suse/novell. I found it interesting that Mark S. mentioned it for the future of ubuntu. I just hope all the distros can come to some agreement and just use it and lets gets on with konqueroring the world!!

also kudos to ubuntu - I upgraded a ppc and a pentium 4 system with apt-get upgrade and they went flawlessly - no problems at all. also did a new install on a dual boot workstation and had to use the alternate cd image to install on lvm volumes - that was kind of a pain but it worked flawlessly again.
so kudos to the ubuntu project

[shopRatt]

I have really been giving the zen package management updater the old college try on suse 10.1 and I have given up. It just doesn't work and novell would be smart (no pun intended) to abandon it now and go with smart. I use smart strictly now on my amd64 machine and it is fast and is very easy to use. kudos to smart!!
other than that suse 10.1 is rock solid and is the usual high quality we come to expect from suse/novell. I found it interesting that Mark S. mentioned it for the future of ubuntu. I just hope all the distros can come to some agreement and just use it and lets gets on with konqueroring the world!!

I could not agree more. Yesterday, I finally got around to doing a clean install of suse 10.1. I went well, and lasted just under an hour. I then tried to install <cough> codecs <cough> from the jem report website. My experience is that yast2 blows balls and every time I tried to add sources to the list, my system would hang in a neverending loop.

Tsuroerusu is always talking up Smart in the forums and IRC, so I deceided to give it a go. It was very quick and updated my sysem fast. If we had one package management system to rule them all, my vote (so far) would be Smart. Thanks T, you're the man.

After playing with Suse 10.1 for most of the night, I think that it is a great distro. I was too lazy to upgrade from 9.3 to 10.0, so much of it is newer and faster than I am used to. (Although it is still not as fast as Slackware on my secondary box, but I didn't expect it to be).

[Patrick]

I'm curious to hear how Smart works on other distros. Especially Ubuntu and Slackware. I might have to try it out on Ubuntu. Maybe Linc or Allan can try it out for Slackware. Chess is a Slackware user as well I believe.

[schotty]

I've seen that site before. It's mostly a community driven web site. At least Dell has the decency to do this if even if they don't want to "officially" support linux. On a side note, I just read that linux accounts for 25% of Dell's enterprise level sales:
http://news.com.com/For+Dell%2C+industr ... 81793.html

My thoughts exactly. I dont own dells so I have no idea how easy/hard linux really is to get to install. But I do appreciate the fact the a big player is supporting linux the best they can really. Love to see them take the next step though -- go RHEL or Ubuntu LTS on a laptop line and desktop line.

[Tsuroerusu]

I have really been giving the zen package management updater the old college try on suse 10.1 and I have given up. It just doesn't work and novell would be smart (no pun intended) to abandon it now and go with smart. I use smart strictly now on my amd64 machine and it is fast and is very easy to use. kudos to smart!!
other than that suse 10.1 is rock solid and is the usual high quality we come to expect from suse/novell.

Actually, the package management system in 10.1 is brand new, that's why it's been causing problems, it was very early code put into 10.1 late in it's beta phase, so they didn't have enough time to get it to work correctly, I think it was pressure from Novell, but we will probably never know for sure.

I could not agree more. Yesterday, I finally got around to doing a clean install of suse 10.1. I went well, and lasted just under an hour. I then tried to install <cough> codecs <cough> from the jem report website. My experience is that yast2 blows balls and every time I tried to add sources to the list, my system would hang in a neverending loop.

This morning, SUSE issued patches for the entire package management stack in SUSE 10.1, and I have to give these guys credit, even though libzypp/yast/rug/zen-* is still significantly slower than Smart, it does work now, and they said in a mailinglist announcement that they will be issuing further updates as the development of those comes along.

After applying these patches and getting the pacakge management system to function, I have to say it's actually pretty cool, once it becomes very solid, I think it's gonna be very cool. It can do a lot stuff, the commandline interface, rug, is very sophisticated and I definitely see a future for it, especially once the openSUSE build service is finalized.

Tsuroerusu is always talking up Smart in the forums and IRC, so I deceided to give it a go.

Smart works, that's why I recommend it

It was very quick and updated my sysem fast. If we had one package management system to rule them all, my vote (so far) would be Smart. Thanks T, you're the man.

No problem, happy to help out. Glad it worked for ya.

After playing with Suse 10.1 for most of the night, I think that it is a great distro. I was too lazy to upgrade from 9.3 to 10.0, so much of it is newer and faster than I am used to. (Although it is still not as fast as Slackware on my secondary box, but I didn't expect it to be).

SUSE maybe not be a lightning fast distro, but I think it actually is pretty nice in terms of performance. The openSUSE project is participating in Google's Summer of Code, and one of their approved project is to improve the performance of SUSE Linux, so you may see some nice speed improvements in 10.2
By the way, the openSUSE project is releasing Alpha 1 of SUSE Linux 10.2 in a week from now, I noticed from the commit list that they're very much gearing up for it!

I'm curious to hear how Smart works on other distros. Especially Ubuntu and Slackware. I might have to try it out on Ubuntu. Maybe Linc or Allan can try it out for Slackware. Chess is a Slackware user as well I believe.

I tried it on Ubuntu, worked perfectly fine for me!

I wouldn't expect less, after all, right from the beginning Smart was written to be universal.

[Judland]

We have DELL laptops at the office I work at. I've booted up MandrivaOne on several of them.... everything comes up just fine, from what I can tell.

[kbrown3074]

I am running a Dell at home and work. No problems..minus my 'stupid' errors. Btw..so is Linc

[Linc]

I am running a Dell at home and work. No problems..minus my 'stupid' errors. Btw..so is Linc

YUP!