Arch and pcmcia - Patrick?

Hey drop us a line about the show. Feel free to ask questions, provide feedback and criticism, or just ramble on about anything your little heart desires.

Moderators: snarkout, Patrick, dann

Post Reply
User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Arch and pcmcia - Patrick?

Post by snarkout » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:08 pm

Patrick - do your pcmcia slots work on your lappy? I can't get mine to do a damn thing - the yenta socket module is loaded, and modules load when I put card in, but I get nothing useful from them. This is looking grim for Arch on my lappy...
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

User avatar
Patrick
Site Admin
Posts: 2519
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:38 am
Location: Easton, PA
Contact:

Post by Patrick » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:35 pm

I don't have any pcmcia cards so I have no idea if they're working. My wireless card is an internel mini-pci.

User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Post by snarkout » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:17 am

Oh well. Looks like it's back to Kubuntu then. I was hoping to give etch a spin, but I installed it on a spare drive last night and it's missing a lot of apps I use regularly.
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

User avatar
Patrick
Site Admin
Posts: 2519
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:38 am
Location: Easton, PA
Contact:

Post by Patrick » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:18 am

Snarkout wrote:Oh well. Looks like it's back to Kubuntu then. I was hoping to give etch a spin, but I installed it on a spare drive last night and it's missing a lot of apps I use regularly.
That sucks man. Did you try jumping on the Arch IRC?

User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Post by snarkout » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:08 am

No. I don't IRC much. I've posted in the forums though (I actually posted in two of them since it seems like the laptop forum isn't widely read). The only response so far was someone asking if I was using udev. I'll take a more serious stab at it tonight.
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

Judland
Posts: 1030
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:55 pm

Post by Judland » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:50 pm

I just installed Arch (Underground Desktop) on to an old Toshiba Satellite laptop, here at the office. I put pcmcia in my rc.conf and it's working just fine (at least the network card that's plugged in anyway).

User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Post by snarkout » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:19 pm

Are you fully updated? PCMCIA in rc.conf just kicks out errors during boot for me. AFAICT it's a leftover from pcmcia_cs.
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

Judland
Posts: 1030
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:55 pm

Post by Judland » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:20 pm

I hadn't gotten around to updating the system before leaving for the weekend. But it is Noodle (0.7.1), as that is what the latest version of Underground Desktop is built from.

I had to get the network card working in order to access the repositories, but I just didn't run pacman -Syu yet.

User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Post by snarkout » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:50 pm

Well, I re-installed kubuntu at lunch. I'm still a major Arch fanboy, but I *need* my lappy to work. I'll do some research and make a stab at it again in the future at some point. The archck kernel is awesome!
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

User avatar
Jza
Posts: 466
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:01 pm
Location: Mexico
Contact:

Post by Jza » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:50 pm

try to put modprobe pcnet_cs and then als0 service pcmcia restart. Als0 theere was an0ther line but I d0nt remember at this m0ment.

Als0 useful c0mands are
yenta_s0cket
cardmgr
Alexandro COLORADO

User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Post by snarkout » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:23 am

Yeah - I'm used to those tools. Arch doesn't use pcmcis_cs anymore - it uses pcmciautils. Cardctl etc doesn't exist anymore as far as I can tell. Oh well, the right tool for the job, and in this case, until I learn wtf I'm doing with the new pcmcia stuff, arch isn't the right tool.
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

User avatar
Jza
Posts: 466
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:01 pm
Location: Mexico
Contact:

Post by Jza » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:48 am

D0ing a quick search 0n the ArchWiki I f0und this link:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hwd_PCMIA_Table

H0pe it helps 0ut
Alexandro COLORADO

User avatar
snarkout
Site Admin
Posts: 1342
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 pm

Post by snarkout » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:18 pm

What pcmcia chipset (is that the right word?) do you have judland? I'm using the yenta_socket driver, and according to kernel.org this is "a complicated one." Maybe that's my problem. However, I also found similar commands to the old cardctl ones -- maybe I'll give it a go again sometime here in the future.
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased; thus do we refute entropy.
--Spider Robinson

Judland
Posts: 1030
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:55 pm

Post by Judland » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:14 pm

I'll look that up for you when I'm in the office tomorrow. Hopefully the laptop I installed Linux on will be back tomorrow, too.

Funny thing is, as soon as I resurrected the laptop from the "out of service" pile in IT's closet, someone already took it out to work in "the field" with them. Guess they liked it :wink:

I even got an e-mail from the engineer who borrowed it today, asking if I could find an AutoCAD file viewer for it (kind of like a PDF viewer, but for AutoCAD formatted files). I might have a potential Linux user in the works here.

Post Reply