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Post by Tsuroerusu » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:30 pm

Wally Balljacker wrote:Ah, ok thanks. I must have miss read that. I thought you meant right-click and copy link location.
Hehe, fair enough, well it was the opposite I was refering to :P :wink:

Anyway, I see you choose GNOME, what do you think of SUSE's first go at providing a complete GNOME desktop? Prior versions to 10.0 never gave the user the choice between KDE and GNOME, it just installed KDE.
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Post by Wally Balljacker » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:39 pm

Tsuroerusu wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote:Ah, ok thanks. I must have miss read that. I thought you meant right-click and copy link location.
Hehe, fair enough, well it was the opposite I was refering to :P :wink:

Anyway, I see you choose GNOME, what do you think of SUSE's first go at providing a complete GNOME desktop? Prior versions to 10.0 never gave the user the choice between KDE and GNOME, it just installed KDE.
I ended up installing both KDE, and GNOME, and I'm really liking SUSE alot. The default themes and styles are very nice, and everything is put together very well. I still think I prefer Synaptic for package management, but YaST is very robust and easy to use as well.

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Post by Tsuroerusu » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:44 pm

Wally Balljacker wrote:I ended up installing both KDE, and GNOME, and I'm really liking SUSE alot.
:twisted: Infiltration Complete! :twisted:

Just kidding :P

Wally Balljacker wrote:The default themes and styles are very nice, and everything is put together very well. I still think I prefer Synaptic for package management, but YaST is very robust and easy to use as well.
'Ey if you prefer Synaptic, you can definitely get it on SUSE, first of all, you need to install the apt package, then you need to set the sources.list file up, here's a good place to start:

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# A very basic sources.list file.
# Remove "base" in case you are behind a slow connection.
# Fastest repository comes first, with netselect it is possible to determine
# the fastest repository easily.
# Visit the server to determine which apt components are provided.
# rpm ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.0-i386 base update security java extra suser-guru packman
rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.0-i386 base update security java extra suser-guru packman

# The list with all available components can be found at:
# http://linix01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
# Some components provide experimental software, select wisely!
# http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/examples/sources.list.FTP

# Consult the link above if you want to include uri's for src rpms
Then do "apt-get update", and then "apt-get install synaptic" :wink:
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Post by Wally Balljacker » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:53 pm

Tsuroerusu wrote:
Wally Balljacker wrote:I ended up installing both KDE, and GNOME, and I'm really liking SUSE alot.
:twisted: Infiltration Complete! :twisted:

Just kidding :P

Wally Balljacker wrote:The default themes and styles are very nice, and everything is put together very well. I still think I prefer Synaptic for package management, but YaST is very robust and easy to use as well.
'Ey if you prefer Synaptic, you can definitely get it on SUSE, first of all, you need to install the apt package, then you need to set the sources.list file up, here's a good place to start:

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# A very basic sources.list file.
# Remove "base" in case you are behind a slow connection.
# Fastest repository comes first, with netselect it is possible to determine
# the fastest repository easily.
# Visit the server to determine which apt components are provided.
# rpm ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.0-i386 base update security java extra suser-guru packman
rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/10.0-i386 base update security java extra suser-guru packman

# The list with all available components can be found at:
# http://linix01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
# Some components provide experimental software, select wisely!
# http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/examples/sources.list.FTP

# Consult the link above if you want to include uri's for src rpms
Then do "apt-get update", and then "apt-get install synaptic" :wink:
Sounds good, but I'll probably just stick with YaST for now. It wouldn't hurt to learn another package management system. :wink:

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Post by Tsuroerusu » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:56 pm

Wally Balljacker wrote:Sounds good, but I'll probably just stick with YaST for now. It wouldn't hurt to learn another package management system. :wink:
Of course not, just thought I'd tell you that you could certainly get Synaptic if you wanted to :wink:
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upgraded to suse 10

Post by jsusanka » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:27 am

upgraded to suse 10 last night from 9.3 and it went flawlessly except for one thing - mysql wouldn't start up - so I just did apt-get remove mysql and then apt-get install mysql and it started right up with all my databases still there intact.

I compiile my web middleware on my boxes and all that worked fine afterwords along with all the flash and java plugins are still in tack.

sweeeet! - now my daughter can use my amd64 machine with all her flash stuff for school.

could not have done this windows - I know that for a fact.

one thing I noticed about suse is the swap usage. it doesn't use any - where my ubuntu installation on the same amd64 box would use some. - pretty much same stuff running but I was just wondering if anybody knows if they do anything different to their kernels to improve swap and memory usage. could be just me and my box.

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Re: upgraded to suse 10

Post by CptnObvious999 » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:01 pm

jsusanka wrote:upgraded to suse 10 last night from 9.3 and it went flawlessly except for one thing - mysql wouldn't start up - so I just did apt-get remove mysql and then apt-get install mysql and it started right up with all my databases still there intact.
Err....apt-get? I didn't know SuSE used that....are you sure you don't mean YaST
jsusanka wrote:I compiile my web middleware on my boxes and all that worked fine afterwords along with all the flash and java plugins are still in tack.

sweeeet! - now my daughter can use my amd64 machine with all her flash stuff for school.
Yeah there was an ebuild that used that hack but I couldn't get it to work a while ago. I will see if I can find it again and try it because I hate having to startup firefox-bin everytime I want flash (I love the Open With... Mozilla Firefox feature on Konqueror but it would be easier if it had native support)

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Post by Tsuroerusu » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:44 pm

jsusanka wrote:upgraded to suse 10 last night from 9.3 and it went flawlessly except for one thing - mysql wouldn't start up - so I just did apt-get remove mysql and then apt-get install mysql and it started right up with all my databases still there intact.
Great man, btw how is your boot time? Thanks to my 10,000 RPM hard drive mine is like 20 seconds (From Grub into KDE).

jsusanka wrote:one thing I noticed about suse is the swap usage. it doesn't use any - where my ubuntu installation on the same amd64 box would use some. - pretty much same stuff running but I was just wondering if anybody knows if they do anything different to their kernels to improve swap and memory usage. could be just me and my box.
If this doesn't prove all the past myths about SUSE being sluggish and slow wrong, I don't know what does! :D :wink: :P



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jsusanka wrote:upgraded to suse 10 last night from 9.3 and it went flawlessly except for one thing - mysql wouldn't start up - so I just did apt-get remove mysql and then apt-get install mysql and it started right up with all my databases still there intact.
Err....apt-get? I didn't know SuSE used that....are you sure you don't mean YaST
LOL, dude you sound like you've just seen a ninja (http://www.askaninja.com) :P
Apt has been ported to work with RPM, hence the name apt4rpm, SUSE doens't use it out of the box, but it's included on the install discs right along with yum and smart.

jsusanka wrote:I compiile my web middleware on my boxes and all that worked fine afterwords along with all the flash and java plugins are still in tack.

sweeeet! - now my daughter can use my amd64 machine with all her flash stuff for school.
Yeah there was an ebuild that used that hack but I couldn't get it to work a while ago. I will see if I can find it again and try it because I hate having to startup firefox-bin everytime I want flash (I love the Open With... Mozilla Firefox feature on Konqueror but it would be easier if it had native support)[/quote]
SUSE ships a 32-bit Firefox binary, because then they avoid any sort of issue with plugns and compatibility.
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boot time

Post by jsusanka » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:02 pm

Great man, btw how is your boot time? Thanks to my 10,000 RPM hard drive mine is like 20 seconds (From Grub into KDE).
well since I just booted it once since the upgrade it was definitely quicker but nothing to write home about.

what I do notice is the desktop is a heck of a lot snappier
especially now since I upgrade to kde3.5.2 it is a lot quicker - like something to write home about quicker.

very happy with this on my amd64 box - I have a feeling it is going to stay on there a while.

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Re: boot time

Post by Tsuroerusu » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:42 pm

jsusanka wrote:well since I just booted it once since the upgrade it was definitely quicker but nothing to write home about.
Hmmm OK, next time you reboot, try to count and see what you get :P

jsusanka wrote:what I do notice is the desktop is a heck of a lot snappier
especially now since I upgrade to kde3.5.2 it is a lot quicker - like something to write home about quicker.
Yeah, that I noticed too, 10.0 was a great release, but 'ey, this time SUSE didn't do it themselves, community contributions helped a lot.

jsusanka wrote:very happy with this on my amd64 box - I have a feeling it is going to stay on there a while.
Hehe great! :D
Go listen to the latest episodes of TLLTS, awesome interview with Michael Löffler, product manager of the openSUSE project.
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